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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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is the bolts located on the side of the engine? and is that the headers in the picture with what appears to be heat shields? I'm just trying to get the exact location of this bracket so I can ask how my shop did it when I pick up my car early next week.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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[QUOTE=XR400R;6942397]I'm in the early stages of attempting this oil gallery gasket replacement myself & I've hit a snag in the dismantle process that has me standing around scratching my head (& the part lower & around the corner ). I thought maybe some of yous guys that have done the job could give some tips.

I've got the power steering pump loose, but it was attached to a heavy, cast iron bracket, which is bolted to the outer chain case in front, and to the block in back (see pics). The front bracket bolt retains both the serp belt tensioner bracket and the outer chain case cover. That bracket has to go, but the rear bolts (I can only see two, don't know if there are more) are buried sos it appears almost impossible to get at them to remove. And they appear to be heavy 14mm bolts, so I'm guessing they are SNUG!

My questions are, are those the only two bolts holding that iron bracket on (in addition to the bolt in the front at the chain case cover), and how the heck do you get at them to remove? The manual says simply "Remove bracket" with no other explain nor pics. I must be missing something, but no clue what it is .I


I just removed this bracket last night. You have to remove the 3 alternator bolts and
Move the alternator out of the way. Then I used a wobble 14mm socket and a 6inch and a 3 inch extention connected together to remove the bolts.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SofaKingAzn
is the bolts located on the side of the engine? and is that the headers in the picture with what appears to be heat shields? I'm just trying to get the exact location of this bracket so I can ask how my shop did it when I pick up my car early next week.
Yes, they are directly behind the alternator on the RH (passenger) side, and kind of below the alternator. You have to remove the RH air box/filter to really see them. Yes, you are seeing the RH header/heat shield there. Good eye. The bolts are really much easier to see in the photo than they are standing there. I kind of stuffed the camera down into the fender well area to try to get the flash to illuminate them.

Thanks muchly for any advice/thoughts!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bobby davis
I just removed this bracket last night. You have to remove the 3 alternator bolts and
Move the alternator out of the way. Then I used a wobble 14mm socket and a 6inch and a 3 inch extention connected together to remove the bolts.
Cool! I didn't try that! I hadn't loosened the alt at all yet - still working down to it. I'll give er a shot tonight.

Many thanks, Bobby!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by XR400R
Yes, they are directly behind the alternator on the RH (passenger) side, and kind of below the alternator. You have to remove the RH air box/filter to really see them. Yes, you are seeing the RH header/heat shield there. Good eye. The bolts are really much easier to see in the photo than they are standing there. I kind of stuffed the camera down into the fender well area to try to get the flash to illuminate them.

Thanks muchly for any advice/thoughts!
Just by billy bobbing it with red neck logic I'd say there might be bolts under the headers. But then again I doubt you need to remove the headers considering shop times for removing the timing cover. I'll definitely ask my shop up when I pick up the car and get back to you. Props for doing it yourself I don't have enough competence for that haha :P the most mech thing I done is changing my power train fluids this summer
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SofaKingAzn
Just by billy bobbing it with red neck logic I'd say there might be bolts under the headers. But then again I doubt you need to remove the headers considering shop times for removing the timing cover. I'll definitely ask my shop up when I pick up the car and get back to you. Props for doing it yourself I don't have enough competence for that haha :P the most mech thing I done is changing my power train fluids this summer
Thanks man, I appreciate it. But don't bother. I got it off.

Key is to completely remove the alternator, not just aside, out of the engine bay (drops out the bottom). Then those two bolts are easily accessible from underneath. Don't even need a U-joint connector or wobble on the ratchet. But I did need a breaker bar. Darn! Those suckers were T-I-G-H-T!

One thing I don't understand, is why the heck Nissan put a different connector on every elect cable end. I've had a devil of a time figgering out how each releases, they're all different, & usually nearly impossible to reach to depress the release tab. And all the cable-stays either plug into blind holes, or are nearly impossible to get to the back side to release them. I've had to simply cut most of them off. I'll just use zip-ties to secure cable conduits upon rebuild.

I guess a pro wouldn't have this much trouble. Oh well

It's like Nissan never figgered this thing would never have to come apart. Hmm.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Thanks man, I appreciate it. But don't bother. I got it off.

Key is to completely remove the alternator, not just aside, out of the engine bay (drops out the bottom). Then those two bolts are easily accessible from underneath. Don't even need a U-joint connector or wobble on the ratchet. But I did need a breaker bar. Darn! Those suckers were T-I-G-H-T!

One thing I don't understand, is why the heck Nissan put a different connector on every elect cable end. I've had a devil of a time figgering out how each releases, they're all different, & usually nearly impossible to reach to depress the release tab. And all the cable-stays either plug into blind holes, or are nearly impossible to get to the back side to release them. I've had to simply cut most of them off. I'll just use zip-ties to secure cable conduits upon rebuild.

I guess a pro wouldn't have this much trouble. Oh well

It's like Nissan never figgered this thing would never have to come apart. Hmm.
hhaha true dat. it probably doesn't have to if they didn't mess up on the gasket :P I think Nissan/infiniti has a pretty great built quality overall. Had the problem kept on driving and no damages just need gaskets.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Does anyone know the part # for the 3 sealing rings on the shaft that fits into the intake valve control sprocket (see pic)? I can't find these listed on any Infiniti parts site. Don't know what to order. They are very unusual. Not O-rings as such. Kind of flat & fit very loosely into the grooves. I hate to reinstall the covers with the old rings, but not sure what else to do at this point.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by XR400R
Does anyone know the part # for the 3 sealing rings on the shaft that fits into the intake valve control sprocket (see pic)? I can't find these listed on any Infiniti parts site. Don't know what to order. They are very unusual. Not O-rings as such. Kind of flat & fit very loosely into the grooves. I hate to reinstall the covers with the old rings, but not sure what else to do at this point.
It could be that they are just O-rings which have aged and been compressed a bit. I certainly would not put it all back together without replacing them though!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 04:43 PM
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OK, I'll throw my hat in the ring. Here's what my valve control oil gallery gaskets look like on an '07 G35 wi 71K miles, owned since new & driven very conservatively by a middle-aged lady (my OL). Very regular oil/filter changes with Pennzoil Platinum, & oil analysis conducted by Blackstone at each OCI to make sure oil was still good.

Also, the missing part of the "T" gasket was found stuck to the screen on the oil pickup pipe in the oil pan! Sorry Infiniti, but that's friggin rediculous!!!!!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Sorry Infiniti, but that's friggin rediculous!!!!!
Agreed!

It makes me sick to think how such a beautiful piece of machinery can be absolutely brought to its knees by a stupid little paper gasket. This is undoubtedly one of those instances where the bean counters got their way on the selection of gasket manufacturers/providers.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by XR400R
OK, I'll throw my hat in the ring. Here's what my valve control oil gallery gaskets look like on an '07 G35 wi 71K miles, owned since new & driven very conservatively by a middle-aged lady (my OL). Very regular oil/filter changes with Pennzoil Platinum, & oil analysis conducted by Blackstone at each OCI to make sure oil was still good.

Also, the missing part of the "T" gasket was found stuck to the screen on the oil pickup pipe in the oil pan! Sorry Infiniti, but that's friggin rediculous!!!!!
Haha great job getting it off! you were legitimately quicker than my shop haha, mine's been in the shop for 2 weeks already. And you just saved yourself 1.5g sir
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SofaKingAzn
Haha great job getting it off! you were legitimately quicker than my shop haha, mine's been in the shop for 2 weeks already. And you just saved yourself 1.5g sir
Thanks, but not quite. I've spent over $450 on parts alone (and a couple of tools I needed to do the job), but I'm also replacing the thermostat, water pump, serp belt (destroyed it getting the pulley off), & rad hoses & cap while I'm in the "hole." Time-wise, It's taken me 19 hrs working alone just to get down to the gaskets, & replace them. Still have to re-assemble the pile-o-parts, although that should go quicker (Oh, please, please!!!!!).

How a pro could do this job in 9-10 hrs, I absolutely can't fathom. I'd pay $1,500 just to watch him do it! IMHO, I would NOT recommend doing this job at home!!!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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Unfortunately there is no repairing the cam vtc sprockets and can't be taken apart to clean them out. The inner portion of the sprocket is movable by the oil pressure but the outer portion where the actual chain rides stays in place. They will get sludge or build up in them and will not unstick. Even a piece of silicone can stick one of these sprockets. You could try and remove the 2 cam caps on the front timing cover and possibly move them back and forth to try and free them up but make sure not to damage the teeth that the end of them. If you are able to turn the sprocket back and forth and you hear it click then you know it is back where it needs to be. Once they lock in their original position you most definitley will not be able to turn them due to the spring locking it into position. I have had to do this on a 2011 QX56 to to an intake cam sprocket getting stuck. Infiniti would not recommend this as a repair since there is no guarantee that this will not happen again.

I'm working on a 2007 g5 with hr motor. The dealer says the drivers side vtc cam is retarded by 60° and that they recommending replaceing both vtc cam sprockets #13025-jk20a both are the same part# and both cam sprocket covers #13040-jk22b and #1340-jk28a. Is it necessary to replace the cam sprocket covers? Thanks for your time.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Anyone know when the metal-core gaskets became available? That should give everyone an idea of what model years are affected.
^^ That's a good point.

I have exactly two weeks left on my Elite coverage, but no symptoms. (**fingers crossed**)

I wonder if I should speed up my oil gauge install to see if I have low oil pressure already, just not to the point of showing symptoms yet. In such a case, I wonder if they would even address it of it wasn't throwing a code, as I can imagine low oil pressure by itself isn't something that the Elite warranty covers.
 
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