you just self admitted that you are like 90% of the rest of us (your statement in blue)... considering that, why would it be an issue???

When even you admit that the "clutter" isnt even noticed and it takes me to show an example of why it should be a "non-issue" then suddenly it becomes an issue - that reeks of "playing games" imo.

My point was - the staff in this thread responded multiple times to the member with cluttered sig... they didn’t even notice it was a problem! So how can it be an issue if they kept responded to the guy (even quoting him) - clearly seeing his sig.

I'm not suggesting you run around looking for cluttered sigs... I'm stating the obvious - it can’t possibly be a problem if the people monitoring the boards didn’t even notice it when replying to the member.

When I used the member’s sig as an example for something entirely different, suddenly they gave him a warning - this clearly makes no sense unless your rules are "do nothing unless a member brings it up".

If you read each of my posts in the context in which they were written and not isolate one post, you will understand the flawed logic. Every follow-up post I made regarding the sig issue has complete relevance to previous posts made by my or others addressing the posts made by me... if you respond to just one without understanding the bases of the subject, them you aren’t getting the full picture - and I'm not going to reiterate it...

Any logical person can sum it up by reading the posts regarding sigs and realize there is inconsistency, lack of logic and no concern for the "enthusiast" aspect that this particular site was founded on (“was” is the key word, it clearly isn’t anymore).

Because it is a rule, and has been one for a while. Again, it was carelessness on my part, not because it didn't violate the TOU regarding sigs.

A failure in the past on my part doesn't mean I can continue to do so in the future. If you consider someone trying to improve themselves as playing games, then I guess I'm a gamer.

Another thing- warnings and infractions are now being used a lot more, this decision was made independent of this case. Warnings are a simple way to notify someone of a violation, and it keeps a log so another mod doesn't send a similar message. People shouldn't take offense by it, it's just a better way of notifying members to correct something.

But don't you reallize? Its all about money and schoolbusdriveresque power

You guys are incredible… The issue isn’t your ability or lack of ability to monitor or enforce the rules.

The issue is the rule itself makes no sense because you didn’t even notice the infraction.

You guys need to stop be so defensive and understand what’s being stated… it seems as though every response made is some kind of justification for you actions and not addressing the issues that we are bringing up.

And I’d like to address the song and dance I keep reading about “wee are volunteers and don’t get paid”… fine – but doing something for free does not excuse doing it poorly. And even though you may not get “paid” it doesn’t mean you aren’t “compensated” – I’m sure each of you have free membership with all access and possibly other perks (not that I care).

If you are going to address my posts, at least address the “issue” I am speaking of and not a few words from one post.

I didn't make the rule chief, and I was well aware of what your point was, but there was no point in me addressing parts of your post that I have no ability to change. You'll also notice I never disagreed with you in regard to if the rule is appropriate, but the fact is that it is a rule and has been for a while.

I also think saying something shouldn't be an issue, isn't the same as saying maybe the rules should change. Trying to convince the admins to change a rule by saying something is stupid (which other said) also isn't the best way to go about it.



Compensation? What, access to the premier membership section? My premier membership is paid through July anyway, so I'm getting nothing I didn't have already anyway. Premier membership costs, what, $40/year? I make that by working 2.5 hours as an intern while still in school. Do you think the staff here only spend 2.5 hours/year working on the site?

As far as "doing our jobs poorly", report it to an IB admin. I really encourage you to do it, I'm very interested to see their response.

as long as you get the points being made - thats all I expect.

you guys (staff, mods, admins) need to review this thread beginning on page 127

http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...ports-127.html

pay particular attention to what is being said about the "free" staff monitoring this site...

I suggest you ask yourself if any of these things are true. There is no need to report your feelings back here... just think long and hard about what is being said by people that have notice things over here.

BTW - it doesn’t stem from this thread or any other particular thread... it's the "big picture"

Again, ask yourself honestly if the posts in the linked thread apply to you. You might learn and grow from your "honest" evaluation of yourself.

I haven't read it, mostly because my settings only show 52 pages so I can't find page 127, but I want to throw this out here- the last time something was posted in that thread about the staff here (that allegedly Scott had been using Canadian's id and that they shared an IP), it was proven to be false by Internet Brands. Some said he thought someone else said something...yadda yadda yadda, it blew up into a huge issue and the mob formed looking to lynch someone....the reality was, it was completely false and was started by a case of the "telephone" game.

You can see a copy of Adrian's post (that he put in the Scott/RA thread on my350) here on 'Driver as well on post 103 of this thread:
https://g35driver.com/forums/forum-f...on-admins.html

I'm in charge! bitchez

my reason for drawing attention to the particular page of that thread has nothing to do with the situation you are referencing.

It’s pointless. Keep up the good work

did you actually read my post chief?

I never said that was the same exact situation you were referring to, even though they did bring up the same person's name at one point in the discussion and try to "blame" it on him.

I'm pointing out that the last time those people made allegations about the staff here they were completely discredited, not by 'Driver staff, nor by my350z staff, but by an impartial party- IB. A few of those people were big enough to apologize, and kudos to them, but I'd bet the majority a) didn't see Adrian's post, or b) didn't care and still believe it to be true.

I found what you seem to be referring to, and it appears to be just another case of telephone. Someone thinks that someone else did/said this and that....

Someone already posted that they'd contacted IB, I'm sure that if that if there's any truth to what is said, they'll take care of it unless you think they some how are corrupt and have an incentive to keep some horrible staff member here.

Have fun trolling.

Wow, I read some of this bantering back and forth and it is like Kindergarten kids arguing back and forth, THe read was a total waste of time and effort.SHEEESH
Both sides should give it a break

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