The Audi S5 and BMW 335i are nice cars, good luck on your purchases and enjoy your cars!

 

yeah, where did all of the good cars go? It's sooooooo sad.

 

Not sure where you are getting $10k more -- especially since pricing for either the A5 or G37 hasn't been announced yet.

I would expect the Audi to be closer to a $5k difference or even less -- especially if the A5 comes in close to A4 pricing (A4 3.2 quattro MSRP starts at $37k, while the G35 coupe MSRP starts at $35k).

If you are talking about the 335i, it starts at $41k, so that is $6k difference, still not the $10k difference suggested (we are talking starting MSRP here, not "every option possible" pricing). But, with BMW's great lease offers, the monthly payment may be identical (part of BMW's marketing plan IMHO -- excessively high MSRP to give the exclusive luxury car image, yet low monthly payments to make it more attainable than you would originally think).

Either way, we will have to wait until final pricing is announced and drive the three cars to really compare them.

 

Kind of make you wish Infiniti come out with a "Bare Bone" version of the G37 Coupe without well.... anything.

Cloth seat, no Xenon, no LED, no MP3, no color display screen, no sunroof, no chrome spoiler, no washi aluminum, no keyless entry, no memory seats, no rear fold down, 17" rims, Altima brakes, no metallic paint, no leather steering wheels........ and sell it for $27k just to make a point.


Then again - nah~

 

Hahaha, well put...well put indeed

 

Omg they ruined the G. lol

 

The lease quote above is something I hear over and over again. I've priced both cars out and the BMW with equal options, is close to $100 more per month (both leases using good deals off of MSRP). I hear this on the bimmer forums as well, and when I ask them for numbers to compare to the numbers that I receive, I never get a response. Or you get a "well, I don't need real leather, or NAV, or, whatever". So, they end up comparing a bare-bones BMW (which comes with NOTHING) to a decently equipped G35S just to help their argument. It still comes out more most of the time anyway.

If you are interested in the BMW and G, you should price them both out as I did.

 

Officially, yes, neither has been announced. But, Infiniti officials at the NYIAS indicated the G37 price increase would be comparable to the gen2 G35 sedan price increase. Now, logically, it should be a greater increase because of VVEL, but we have a rough idea the price increase will not be shockingly large. Regarding the A5/S5, the prices have been announced throughout Europe and we do know where these fit pricewise in the Audi lineup.

The "problem" with the Audi is neither engines' power fits comfortably in the existing comparisons. The A5 will produce about 260 hp, noticeably less than the G37 (although in the ballpark of the 328i). The S5 will produce about 350 hp, noticeably more than the G37 or 335i. But, the A5 is expected to start at just under $40K in the US, which is substantially more than the G37. So, less performance, albeit with quattro and, arguably, a nicer interior, for about $5K more. The difference should be greater after adding options because Audi option prices have, historically, been pretty steep.

Talking a cue from Edmunds, it is probably best to compare "normally" equipped to "normally" equipped, or even as you want them both equipped. Because BMW charges more for option packages than Infinit, the base price difference increases as "normal" or desired options are added to the comparison. Plus, fwiw, in most markets BMW dealers are currently not discounting the 335i much, if at all. This may be the case with the G37 after its release, but it should not remain the case after the demand settles down.

Lease rates are based on two factors; the cost of money and the expected residual value. While BMW's have a high resale value leading to a high residual value, the G35, most especially the coupe, has retained virtually the same percentage resale value as the 3 Series. This should give BMW the same edge over the G as it has over the Audi 4 series, for example. And, unless BMW is figuring on the Euro-dollar relationship, which it might very well be doing, BMW's cost of funds should not be appreciably different than Nissan's

 

You wont get into a mildly equipped 335i coupe for less than $4K down and $550/month for 36mo, 36K. Just not happening. If you can afford it, get it. It's a better car, I'm sure - once loaded up.

 

Seriously! Are you a Nissan/Corparate internet spy/rep. Go back and tell your managers at your next meeting that the 2nd Gen coupe is wonky looking and is not the trend setting car that they anticipated it to be.
Let's hope Nissan will only keep this 2nd Gen style for 2 years max!!
I mean really, what are they thinking!!!!!!!!!!

 

When you get a chance, could you please put on Johnnys "Great Karnack" head gear and predict me some of next weeks lottery numbers? I could use a few extra Yen in the bank account for the TT upgrade to my new G37.

I have seen so many negative posts about the new 37, and have accounted many times for the dislike as poeple who really love their 35s so that they are simply too in love to move on and think past their generation model.

As for predictions of future failure:
BUT ENOUGH ALREDAY.

Time. Simple Time.

I do not work for Infiniti, nor do the dozens of people who have posted they like the new G, nor did the dozens i herd on the NYIAS standing in front of the car who said wow, i want that, i like that, that looks good, that looks great, whats that, thats really cool, when can we buy it, is it for real, .... i can go on, there was lots of positive feedback, and no one was wearing Infiniti name badges. And i came back later in the day and herd all the same stuff.

Only time will tell if it is a better sales hit then the current gen model. Sales will give them the feedback they will react to, not you, not me, not every post on this website. If it sells, (which I think it will- better then the 35) its a hit and it it will gain a larger base of consumers for Infiniti in general. If it sells less then the current G, then they might do a 2 year update. Plain and simple.

Realize every car changes, every change model launch has to move away from the old look, and this is not by any stretch a major move, this is a blend of new on top of old, so it really is not that far away. Some model changes totally re-make the car, this is no where close. I liked the old model but could not afford it, or 1 would be in my garage today.

IF i had been lucky enough to own a 35 today, I would have bought it years ago. If i did have 1- i would still say the same things about the new 37. I like them both, but it just so happens today I can actually buy a G w/o breaking the bank. Agree to disagree and lets stop predicting doom for this barely released model, which most people have not even seen in person nor driven yet, lets let the sale figures do the talking. If it does not sell well so be it, but dont call it a DOA before it even hits the store shelves.

 

Awesome post, everything you said is true. Like you, I don't work for Nissan/Infiniti, but realize that the G37 is an amazing machine, and that is why I plan on getting one. I also believe the G37 will sell very well. Outside of this board, I have heard nothing but awesome things about the G37. Several of my buddies love it and plan on getting one, like myself. Also, these are guys who did not like Nissan/Infiniti before!!

 

Well said and thank you.
Nobody in my neighborhood is going to laugh at me when I pull that G37 into my driveway. Can't wait.

 

Thank you for being sane.

 

Nothing compares to a Bentley Continental GT! My next car after I hit the lottery.

The G37 is a beautiful car no doubt - It's ok to love it or hate it.
If you can afford an infiniti you're priviledged over the average car owner.
The G35 is a classic, nothing blah about it, in 25 years it will become a vintage "antique". I don't care what I hear I'm keeping mine forever.
I'll just buy the Bentley Continental GT's turbo engine and shove it in my G.