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Old May 26, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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LCD/Plasma TV's

i know this ain't G related, but damn...I need some opinions.

For almost 3 weeks now, I have been looking everywhere on the island for a new TV that I can wall mount. Looking for at least a 42", and something I can wall mount. HD compatibale with a res of at least 1080. A reputable brand...don't have to be sony....cause all i ever had was sony, and I'm not too pleased with it. I guess you could say I don't believe the hype. I checked everywhere...the 2 best buys, compusa, circuit city, costco, sams, shirokiya, sears, ...everywhere. And I still can't make up my mind!

Any suggestions? Positives, negatives on plasma or LCD? any help appreciated!
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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LCD last longer, and IMO has better picture. Downside, LCD costs more.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 06:07 AM
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^ hells yeah. it's like almost a grand more for a 42-50 LCD compared to a plasma. One of my good friends used to work at sears. she said that the plasma gas filled bulbs tend to break if u tilt the screen a certain way. so that makes transporting them a biatch too. damn. any one recommend any lcd screen brands/models?
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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depending on the brand, LCD picture quality aint as good as Plasma. there are thousands of LCD's/Plasma's that you can wall mount! if it doesn't have to be wall mount, look into a Sony SXRD. that my friend has outstanding picture quality, and if you go face flat to the screen you won't see the pixels!! the blacks have also gotten blacker, and the resolution is above 1080 if i'm not mistaken. i'm almost done saving up for the 60"!

some facts i bookmarked in jan.:

Fact: LCD can only reproduce 16.7 million colors, whereas plasma can exceed this figure by the billions.

Fact: LCDs do not last any longer than plasmas. In fact, plasma displays use less power because they are comprised of individual lighted pixels which operate at varieties of temperature, and are not always on as the entire LCD panel must be.

Fact: LCDs are brighter in bright viewing environments only because they are shipped with their brightness levels turned all the way up. Any display (including plasmas) will look just as bright if you turn their brightness controls way up.

Fact: LCD panels reproduce vastly inferior gray scale levels, which means that darker scenes contain less detail. Contrast = detail. Put an LCD in a dark room, and they will appear gray, not black. Plasma displays will always produce much higher contrast levels and more detail in dark areas of the picture.

Fact: the larger an LCD panel is, the more expensive it is. Thus, LCD panels larger than 40" are exceedingly rare, whereas plasmas are exceeding 70" in scale. Bigger is better, everyone knows that!

Fact: every major electronic brand is producing plasma displays as their high-end televisions, and LCDs as their entry-level. Why would they invest that sort of money into a technology that will soon be abandoned?

Fact: LCDs experience color shifting and contrast loss when viewed off angle. An LCD manufacturer can claim all he likes that his LCD has 170 degrees of viewing, but who cares if the picture falls apart? Plasmas do not suffer from this failure.

Fact: consumer LCDs pixel refresh rate is still around 11 ms, versus 4 ms in a plasma, meaning that high-speed action on the plasma will remain true, whereas jaggies and occasionally the complete loss of a fast-moving object will occur on LCDs.

Fact: LCDs are less resistent to burn-in than plasmas are. LCDs CAN suffer burn-in in their front filters if a static image is back-lit at a high enough brightness level for long enough. It's hard to do, but it can be done. Current plasma televisions are less likely than previous generations at suffering burn-in. This will continue to improve. Any display can be burned in if you try hard enough.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Just like to add everyone says that the plasma will burn out, then you have to get a new tv. Well does any one know of any one that has had a plasma pic goo bad. I just purchased a zenith 50 for 2500.00. It's the same tva as LG (thats 1,000.00 more). Wanted a panasonic elite but with new furniture and a new house tv was out of my range. The zenith is great on reguler channels and super on hd I also have direct tv.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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true plasmas will eventually burn out but not as soon as everyone thinks it will...the half life of each plasma cell is 60,000 hours. that means if you watch tv for 5 hours a day everday, in 30 years, it would only lose half it's brightness.

pioneer makes the elite...not panasonic
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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^ correct. the previous/first generation plasma's have less lifespan. i'd say go for the Plasma.

man, i wish you told me earlier, i had crazy hookups on Plasma's/Lcd's. i'm talking CHEEEEEEAP, with Warranties.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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apples and oranges. still friut but diffrent. Sony used to make the best premium tube TV's. But a lot has changed. Plasma gives better black but can have burn in problems with static images. LCD's are finally getting to the larger sizes. Pioneer used to be best/premium plasma manufacturer but I think the pack has gotten a lot tighter in the last few years. I still prefer plasma. The longer you can wait the cheaper/better the product. For most consumer electronics new models come out in late August. So in the overlap time you can get good deals on new but outgoing models.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Actually LCDs will out last Plasmas. You can replace a bulb in the LCD, the Plasmas are throw aways.

Originally Posted by sen_jen
depending on the brand, LCD picture quality aint as good as Plasma. there are thousands of LCD's/Plasma's that you can wall mount! if it doesn't have to be wall mount, look into a Sony SXRD. that my friend has outstanding picture quality, and if you go face flat to the screen you won't see the pixels!! the blacks have also gotten blacker, and the resolution is above 1080 if i'm not mistaken. i'm almost done saving up for the 60"!

some facts i bookmarked in jan.:

Fact: LCD can only reproduce 16.7 million colors, whereas plasma can exceed this figure by the billions.

Fact: LCDs do not last any longer than plasmas. In fact, plasma displays use less power because they are comprised of individual lighted pixels which operate at varieties of temperature, and are not always on as the entire LCD panel must be.

Fact: LCDs are brighter in bright viewing environments only because they are shipped with their brightness levels turned all the way up. Any display (including plasmas) will look just as bright if you turn their brightness controls way up.

Fact: LCD panels reproduce vastly inferior gray scale levels, which means that darker scenes contain less detail. Contrast = detail. Put an LCD in a dark room, and they will appear gray, not black. Plasma displays will always produce much higher contrast levels and more detail in dark areas of the picture.

Fact: the larger an LCD panel is, the more expensive it is. Thus, LCD panels larger than 40" are exceedingly rare, whereas plasmas are exceeding 70" in scale. Bigger is better, everyone knows that!

Fact: every major electronic brand is producing plasma displays as their high-end televisions, and LCDs as their entry-level. Why would they invest that sort of money into a technology that will soon be abandoned?

Fact: LCDs experience color shifting and contrast loss when viewed off angle. An LCD manufacturer can claim all he likes that his LCD has 170 degrees of viewing, but who cares if the picture falls apart? Plasmas do not suffer from this failure.

Fact: consumer LCDs pixel refresh rate is still around 11 ms, versus 4 ms in a plasma, meaning that high-speed action on the plasma will remain true, whereas jaggies and occasionally the complete loss of a fast-moving object will occur on LCDs.

Fact: LCDs are less resistent to burn-in than plasmas are. LCDs CAN suffer burn-in in their front filters if a static image is back-lit at a high enough brightness level for long enough. It's hard to do, but it can be done. Current plasma televisions are less likely than previous generations at suffering burn-in. This will continue to improve. Any display can be burned in if you try hard enough.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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you wouldn't want to just replace the bulb of an lcd tv you've had for centuries.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sen_jen
you wouldn't want to just replace the bulb of an lcd tv you've had for centuries.


agreed...plus we're talking about lcd's like sharp aquos...not a dlp.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Sony Bravia would be a very good option. The trouble is it only goes up to 40" before it gets too deep to mount easily. Anyhow check it out.


Super.......howzit.
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Just came back from Best Buy shopping for a large TV..
we decided on a 50" Plasma.. they are just too good looking. Now I have to narrow it down to a brand!
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GZire
Sony Bravia would be a very good option. The trouble is it only goes up to 40" before it gets too deep to mount easily. Anyhow check it out.


Super.......howzit.

hey brah...
 
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Old May 26, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Real_G
Just came back from Best Buy shopping for a large TV..
we decided on a 50" Plasma.. they are just too good looking. Now I have to narrow it down to a brand!


if you have the funds, go either fujitsu or pioneer elite... but a panasonic will also do nicely. those are the three i'd go with.

you might also want to check authorized online dealers for the three brands above. i got my 50" pioneer elite from www.tvauthority.com for about 1500 less than best buy, out the door. the delivery was painless.
 

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