I am new to the forum and was looking at different threads. I found the thread on the SSV, which I have. IMO, it made a substantial difference in performance, especially above 4,000 rpm. I don't have access to a dyno or drag strip, but I feel the performance gain is indeed noticable. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

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If you got all 3 parts installed at the same time... you cant legitimately say that the SSV gained you any power. The stillen cat-back is the brunt of the gains that you're feeling. You probably gained about 7-10whp from the exhaust and another 1-2 from the intake, but the SSV lost you that extra 1-2 the intake gained you, so the only power increase you're feeling is the exhaust.
-GP-

 

As it was stated earlier by Nismo... the SSV is pushing so much air into the engine that the fuel doesnt keep up, therefor throwing the air-to-fuel ratio off, resulting in running lean and either gaining no power... or worse, losing power. You have to know how all this stuff works to be able to understand what i'm talking about. Just because Kinetix website shows the dyno with the SSV manifold on an NA g35 doesnt mean that they didnt have the A/F ratio tuned to make the gains with the SSV.
-GP-

 

This must be some kind of new math or something. I hope that adding 1+1 doesn't equal 3. What are you basing your numbers on? I fail to see how the SSV is losing power. Doesn't add up. I thought Hillary Clinton was controversial, but it looks like she can't hold a candle to the SSV manifold.

I just know that I am pleased with the performance of my manifold. Perhaps we should get Jamieson Luther at Kinetix to share his thoughts on this.

 

If your butt dyno can feel the power increase and you're happy with it then that's awesome for you. But a majority of the people that have run the SSV on an NA motor havent felt or been able to prove any gains. When you do modifications to the G other than FI or engine management, most of the time the gains you feel are all mental. You are re-assuring yourself that you're getting what you paid for.

I have an intake, plenum spacer and exhaust and i know that i've spent alot of money alone on those mods. But i also know that my car didnt get much faster. For the most part i did it all for the sound, and my car sounds damn good so i'm happy.
-GP-

 

For the time being, all I have is a "butt dyno". I do believe the car performs better. I also love the sound. For me, it's the bomb, but to each his own. If you like your setup, more power to you. I think all of this discussion comes under the heading, "bench racing". Guys will always say what they want when they are together. We all know it. I won't make any outrageous claims, but do feel my car is more fun to drive.

 

Like i said, as long as your happy, that's all that matters. But it still doesnt prove that the SSV provided you any real gains. Try putting on the MREV2 and then come back and tell me what you feel. The MREV2 is proven power so i guarantee you'll feel even more of a difference.
-GP-

 

Define huge.
How much faster?
The problem with most mods is the sensation of sound and additional vibrations make you feel that much faster.
Without anything concrete it's hard to take your word for it. Here's a thread from my350z with dyno results. http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.p...hlight=kinetix

 

Cool, as long as you're happy with it that's all that matters. Did the dyno sheets in the linked thread not register anything with you? No worries, I wasn't posting to try and convince you otherwise cause you know your car better than others do.

Have a good day,
Dick

 

^^lol that-a-boy dick!

 

Guys: I wrote to Kinetix with the concerns you shared. I got a response back from Jamison Luther of Kinetix. Now I know some of you will say, "well it's his company, so of course he would say that". I too say in response to the dyno test that showed a power loss, that horsepower can be in the eyes of the beholder.

Here's my e-mail and response:
Dear Jamison: I bought an SSV Kinetix intake manifold. I absolutely love it and am pleased with the results.

I also belong to the G35driver forum. There is a thread where many
people are attacking the SSV manifold and say that it loses power, not
gains power on a naturally aspirated motor. They also say the manifold is
for looks and not for power.

I have stated as have several others that the manifold does indeed
make more power. I have shared about the dyno information, but they say that the dyno information can be false or not the same as actual power.

Is there a way you can challenge their assertions? I am trying to
represent Kinetix and the SSV manifold in a positive light.

His response:
I must thank you for trying to "spread the word"

The internet forum is a tricky place, and we stopped visiting them
because it was just too hard to "educate" and fight the others.

Unfortunately , when someone has a good experience with our product,
they go on with their lives happy with their purchase. Generally people only
post bad experiences.

I cant visit the forum. I can genuinely thank you though for the
support. If you want you can pass on the these following statements.

The SSV has been in production for almost 18 months with more than 400
manifolds in circulation. We have only have a few customers who have
issues with the power gains of the manifold. We always work with them to try and configure their particular setup to achieve the gains they want. Most often it is a tuning requirement. The SSV must be tuned in F/I format to maximize gains, sometimes if left untuned, you can lose power from spikes in the a/f curve. In N/A cars this is generally not required, but is always
helpful to maximize gains. If you dont have the gains you thought, run a good a/f curve when you dyno, and it will tell you if there is
something not right.

Thanks again for the support. We are still working as hard as
ever because the SSV is still on backed up due to demand!!

Guys, I think the people at Kinetix are honest and forthright about what they sell. As you can see, you can work with them. I think a few of you had an excellent idea about the piggyback and dyno tuning, which I may end up doing to maximize my power gains. I know this won't settle the issue permanently, but maybe it will put the Kinetix SSV manifold in a more positive light.

 

Its not so much that the SSV loses power that were talking about... its the fact that it doesnt show any major gains on an NA motor as advertised. You might gain 1-2 wheel hp on an NA motor.... if you compare $$ to HP that's more than i'd like to spend for 2 hp. The motordyne basic 5/16" spacer will gain you more than that for less than 1/4 the cost. If you got it for bling then that's a different story. But like rookie and I stated.. as long as you're happy with it that is all that matters.
Sincerely
Dick #2