Is The Polished Z-TUbe still considered OEM?
Is The Polished Z-TUbe still considered OEM?
Here's the one I was reffering to, and the link is also included.
http://www.g35parts.com/9083/osc/pro...roducts_id=355
http://www.g35parts.com/9083/osc/pro...roducts_id=355
Originally Posted by jin22gt
im looking into buying a polished z-tube. But i have read about the negitives about polished z-tube, it losses power because of heat. is this true?
So to answer your question, if you are concerned about performance a polished Z tube is not a good idea (and no it’s not OEM)... if you aren’t so concerned about performance but like the look then go for it.
If you want performance and looks, paint an OEM Z tube.
OK, about the conductivity of an 8 inch (or so) piece of 3" diameter stainless steel with a high mass flow rate....it's going to be a drop in the ocean compared to the upper and lower plenums. Those two pieces are heat sinks and take forever to dissipate...unless you get the Iso-Thermal MREV
A polished upper Z tube is a much better choice IMHO than a "cold air system".
A polished upper Z tube is a much better choice IMHO than a "cold air system".
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Originally Posted by BALLINassG35
A polished Z tube is rice. Just get a black OEM
And may I say, sometimes G driver's Riceaphobia goes a bit far.
ahaaha, I'm coining that term, "Riceaphobia"
Originally Posted by twin001
OK, about the conductivity of an 8 inch (or so) piece of 3" diameter stainless steel with a high mass flow rate....it's going to be a drop in the ocean compared to the upper and lower plenums. Those two pieces are heat sinks and take forever to dissipate...unless you get the Iso-Thermal MREV
A polished upper Z tube is a much better choice IMHO than a "cold air system".
A polished upper Z tube is a much better choice IMHO than a "cold air system".
Originally Posted by OCG35
and a thermal insulated Z tube is even better... You can take and portion of just about any NA mod and determine it to be a "drop in the bucket" in the scheme of things... but when all combined, ever bit helps... I've done several small tweaks (as well as typical bolt-ons) and any one of them alone wouldn’t amount to much... however the combination has had decent results
Originally Posted by twin001
I would love to see the delta in inlet air temperature at the throttle body with a regular polished z-tube and your thermal wrapped z tube. Same airbox of course. I don't think it would be significant. I'm not doubting your mod but I don't think it's doing that much. The big temperature delta is going to be realized at the intake plenum (Isothermal MREV vs. Stock). My point is, the polished z-tube acting as a heat sink is not a big issue, now the "CAI" that runs from the TB down to the front bumper...that extra length will compound the problem. Go with the polished z tube, you won't be dissapointed. And no, the polished z-tube is not rice (IMHO of course). Again, OCG35, I'm not dissing your mod, but I think it's overkill unless you have the extra $$$ money you are willing to put into the car...or you are FI.
For someone that seems to be real big on Iso Thermal gasket I'm perplexed that you don’t see value in other area of thermal management...
It's apparent that you chose a polished intake and that's fine... IMO it's good for looks but not optimal for performance.
There are much worse choices for sure though.
This can go around in circle for pages and pages... I'm not going to change my view - and you're not going to agree... so continue if you wish, but it's pointless.
Originally Posted by jin22gt
im looking into buying a polished z-tube. But i have read about the negitives about polished z-tube, it losses power because of heat. is this true?
My reference to the plenum has to do with not only the location of the plenum to the engine (very hot) but the size of it compared to the z-tube. You and I know that it's not even close. This is where the heat build up will become an issue, not the z-tube. And I think everyone with the Isothermal MREV can vouch for this, the intake plenum is considerably cooler after spirited drives than the stock one.
Originally Posted by twin001
This is the statement I was arguing. I would love to see dyno-backed data that supports this statement.....I doubt anyone will find it. So to Jin22GT, no, with this N/A engine I am confident in saying you will not lose power with the polished z-tube vs. a plastic z-tube....or at least, no you will not notice a power decrease between the two. If you do then your butt dyno is much more sensitive than mine is!
My reference to the plenum has to do with not only the location of the plenum to the engine (very hot) but the size of it compared to the z-tube. You and I know that it's not even close. This is where the heat build up will become an issue, not the z-tube. And I think everyone with the Isothermal MREV can vouch for this, the intake plenum is considerably cooler after spirited drives than the stock one.
My reference to the plenum has to do with not only the location of the plenum to the engine (very hot) but the size of it compared to the z-tube. You and I know that it's not even close. This is where the heat build up will become an issue, not the z-tube. And I think everyone with the Isothermal MREV can vouch for this, the intake plenum is considerably cooler after spirited drives than the stock one.
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