Be careful if you change back to stock that's insurance fraud [trying to defraud Nissan Warranty Corp.].

Hopefully Nissan is still reading forums on the lookout for warranty abusers. Why you never publically admit to any criminal activity on internet. It's permanent admission of guilt and posters are easy to trackdown.

"been raining like crazy in my area (EL MONTE,CA)"

 

hey man dude my car did the same thing this weekend..i have an cold air and i come out the next day drove around for like a half hour and the car just died on me....i ****ing went home took the cold air off and put the reg. intake back on n took it to the dealer apprenetly i had water in my coils...and idk things were all messed up it got covered under warrenty but if u do that make sure u take ur intake off or they wont cover u

 

A CAI won't let water into the "coils" (coil packs), in fact they are sealed and potted with epoxy. If you got substantial water AROUND the plugs, you went through water high enough to flush it over the engine.

 

Yeah you may have better luck with insurance replacing the engine (if it was damaged) if the dealer refuses the claim, that is if you have good coverage.

A good friend of mine hydrolocked his camaro and his insurance covered the entire engine replacement, needless to say, his insurance company basically paid in full for a 400 RWHP built engine.

 

yea if water got in your ****ed happen to my 2002 maxima same engine

 

hey man, from what you explained, I think I know exactly what happened to your poor motor.

A) The cold air intake definitely sucked up water, ran it through the manifold, and straight into the cylinder housing.... (experienced this by blowing a K20A type R motor to complete hell) your lucky if you didn't warp your piston rods & cracked the piston heads.

B) Your extended warranty will absolutely not cover anything involving your car... (experienced this by going to my extended warranty and bitching about it, got all pissed off, called the guy a tool, and stormed out... not very effective I will say) Because you modified your stock off the lot motor to not stock... you instantly kill/destroy/blow up/pisses all over/burn and bury it deep into the devil's *******.

As said before earlier in the post, the only thing you can do is call work and put in for more hours. Be ready to buy a new motor... I what I did with my civic was had a buddy help me look for a used motor. I ended up saving around a G by doing this.

I wish you luck man!! I really do! I feel your pain 100%. I hope you find an awesome motor and get that baby back on the road!!!!


Here are some pictures of the Type R that I destroyed.... was surprised by a flooded road and turned my car into a submarine

but it worked out because I bought a G and my car life has changed for the better!!!

 

you guys are all out of your fvcking minds

Nobody will get charged with no fraud. You simple required to represent the facts. How do any of you know if the water is actually in the block and if it even did get through the CAI.

SO they only thing he needs to say that When I was driving a car through the puddle it just died and I don't know what happened.

If they ask about CAI you simply say "What's that?"


no mercy for dealers and warranty. It's not like they welcome you with an open arms when you come with a problem that was not caused by you.

 

anyone a honda fan...
if so, what do you think of the pics i posted... its an eX HIN best in class winner

 

except for all the unpainted Carbon fiber, I like it.

 

this engine is as done as express705

 

So many silly posts. If he removes the intake and gets the car to the dealer, he can play stupid all he wants, but when they crack open that block the signs will be there that the motor tried to compress something that's not compressable (ie water). The crank case will be full of water as well. Think people

You can get away with driving your CAI-equipped G in the rain all you want with no worries. Just don't be dumb and drive through pedals. In order to hydrolock a motor, you must FULLY submerse the filter in water. The SECOND that happens, it's over. The very moment the suction of the motor hits the water, the water is pulled up. You can't react quick enough to stop it.

Insurance will cover engine replacement in these situations. Warranties WILL NOT. Warranties do not cover stupidity, ignorance, or your personnal racing program.

 

Dear all that say play stupid,

I am sure everyone's first thought was what yours was. remove the modded parts take it back and play stupid. Heck to be honest, I've done it, and did not get away with it. Calling people silly because they worry about getting in trouble with binding contracts is just as silly as your post. Now I am in no way trying to get on your case or anyone that said the same thing... hell, I had to edit my first post because I said pretty much what you did. Then I remembered my best friends dad. He works for Geico pretty much as a detective and catches people for insurance fraud. I have heard some wicked stories about how they go about finding out about BS cases... Some people end up going to jail in some crazy cases... The people who are caught go through a fack ton of red tape, court dates, and normally a huge judge gavel right up the browneye. Now, in this case(dead motor & needs replacement, we are talking somewhere in the range of 1-3k)... Most likely, in this case, there would be little to no serious penalties at all if caught for fraud. BUT everyone knows that dealerships and insurance companies do not like to get the sh|t covered end of the stick... Which is why in damn near every contract that I have ever seen (owning 6 cars in my life) involving warranty's, it states that if the motor is modified the contract is instantly broken and voided. So, if you were to bring back a car with a blown motor with internal water damage, that clearly could not have happened with a stock motor unless the car was used as a damn submarine... They have people like my friends dad who are great at "fishing out" bullsh*t cases... And the companies really give them the uglystick of the law. Always try to read the fine print with everything involving money or your SSN or anything you physically sign for because in some cases, you could get bent over and railed till you cry. Its as real as life my friend... luckily I heard it from my friends dad before I did something really stupid

Like I said, I'm not trying to aim this at you or bust your *****... or anyone that posted the same thing, but I just don't want someone getting F'd in the A because they read a bunch of fake, possible incriminating sh|t on a forum site...

Thats retarded

So now that is said be, wise but keep things in reality... I mean look at all the people who DL music and sh|t... its like getting hit by lightning. DOMO
DJ Hero

 

You misunderstood my post. The point I was making was that you can play stupid, but they're going to know the motor was hydrolocked. You can't play dumb and say "I was just driving on a bright sunny day and the motor quit". Even if you drained the oil and replaced with used oil with no water in it, the damage to the rods, valves, etc is clearly hydrolock.

Secondly, you most definitely can hydrolock a car with a stock intake. If I were to drive my G35 in a 2' deep trench of water, it would surely sucked in water. If the water gets up to the intake tract, you're screwed. Most people that hydrolock motors are driving stop cars and most of the ones that do it are women driving in floods.

Finally, I'm all for returning cars to stock when they go in for warranty work. Dealers are quick to deny warranties because they don't want to get stuck with a repair Nissan won't comp them for. That's why dealers say retarded things. They're just trying to protect themselves. I can't blame them. You can say the Mag/Moss Law protects you, and it does, but how many of us have the time or money to take Nissan and/or a dealer to court for a $500-2K repair bill?

 

My greatest apologies sir!!! I noticed that after I posted my comment and then made a immediate change... thanks blackberry storm... I am glad you and I are on the same page. All I was trying to say is watch your a$$

Yes it is 100% possible make a stock car hydrolock, but you realllllly have to submerge it... (like your hitting a turn at 100 when you should be going 40... Then end up in a lake or what have you.) What I was trying to get at was being in the shoes of the person evaluating the car.(stock vs CAI in this case) Also if you were to submerge a car deep enough to cause a stock hydrolock, there would be a lot more damage done to the car, inside and out. (most sports sedans don't come with snorkels from the factory along with weather striping made to go trolling for marlin)

I feel like a total tard, and I'm sorry bro, I honestly meant nothing by it.

To go with what you said about swapping from modded to stock and expect them not to notice, you hit the nail on the head! Dealers and anyone who is involved money wise with the car, that isn't you of coarse, is going to know or have someone who will.

SO PEOPLE, YOU GOTTA KEEP YOUR HEAD ON A SWIVEL AND KEEP YOUR COMPOSURE WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING THAT IS YOUR FAULT!!!