Originally Posted by JOKER

You guys are over reacting.


You all say things you say because you all know what happened but if this case presented to a person who has no Idea of what happened and engine equipped with original parts he cant deny the service just because he feels like it.

It's needs to be proven that car was equipped with CAI during the incident. And if dealer chooses to refuse the warranty...........READ THE LAW...........dealer can do that only if he can prove that warranty was voided...........YOU don't have to prove that it was not voided before dealer finds some bases to deny your warranty.


So stop scarring a poor guy.

Put your **** back on, take it to the dealer and say as less **** as possible. Get your story figured out before you talk to anyone.........don't let them catch you making **** up.

Now I'm pretty sure that if you behave your self properly and say the right things dealer is not going to start an investigation and take each screw to the lab to determine if it was removed or not and I'm sure that even if they determine that the screw was tempered with they will not be able to tie it to the screwdriver located in your garage.

Originally Posted by Sublimedsd

Dear all that say play stupid,

I am sure everyone's first thought was what yours was. remove the modded parts take it back and play stupid. Heck to be honest, I've done it, and did not get away with it. Calling people silly because they worry about getting in trouble with binding contracts is just as silly as your post. Now I am in no way trying to get on your case or anyone that said the same thing... hell, I had to edit my first post because I said pretty much what you did. Then I remembered my best friends dad. He works for Geico pretty much as a detective and catches people for insurance fraud. I have heard some wicked stories about how they go about finding out about BS cases... Some people end up going to jail in some crazy cases... The people who are caught go through a fack ton of red tape, court dates, and normally a huge judge gavel right up the browneye. Now, in this case(dead motor & needs replacement, we are talking somewhere in the range of 1-3k)... Most likely, in this case, there would be little to no serious penalties at all if caught for fraud. BUT everyone knows that dealerships and insurance companies do not like to get the sh|t covered end of the stick... Which is why in damn near every contract that I have ever seen (owning 6 cars in my life) involving warranty's, it states that if the motor is modified the contract is instantly broken and voided. So, if you were to bring back a car with a blown motor with internal water damage, that clearly could not have happened with a stock motor unless the car was used as a damn submarine... They have people like my friends dad who are great at "fishing out" bullsh*t cases... And the companies really give them the uglystick of the law. Always try to read the fine print with everything involving money or your SSN or anything you physically sign for because in some cases, you could get bent over and railed till you cry. Its as real as life my friend... luckily I heard it from my friends dad before I did something really stupid

Like I said, I'm not trying to aim this at you or bust your *****... or anyone that posted the same thing, but I just don't want someone getting F'd in the A because they read a bunch of fake, possible incriminating sh|t on a forum site...

Thats retarded

So now that is said be, wise but keep things in reality... I mean look at all the people who DL music and sh|t... its like getting hit by lightning. DOMO
DJ Hero

Originally Posted by DaveB

Have you not read my posts? They'll know right away that it's hydrolocked once they drop the pan to figure out why the motor won't turn over at all. He could always try to play dumb, but 99% of the dealers will tell him this is something for insurance. A warranty covers defective parts.

NOW, it is quite possible that his car didn't fully ingest water and that what has really happened is the MAF got totally covered with water. However, usually when a MAF fails, the engine will still run because the ECU has a fail safe mode which allows it to run without a MAF sensor (2500rpm limit). The fact that his motor won't even turn over tells me a rod probably bent and lodged itself against the cylinder wall, stopping all movement of the motor. Usually when this happens, the rod pops out the block, cracks the block, and the block dumps coolant and oil. In rare cases, the rod goes inwards and doesn't crack the outside of the block.