Advanced Resonance Tuning (ART Pipes)
This is what I was about to say. Or you can take the stock narrowband and replace it with a wideband and have an LC-1 controller mimic the narrowband function so that both the ECU is happy and the wideband reads well.
^^ some people replace a stock sensor with a wideband. The innovate can be programmed to send a narrowband signal so that you can utilize just the wideband and not stock but therea ren't a lot of people that have gone that route and some that did had troubles calibrating it properly. I just went with an easy setup by welding a bung...although I guess I could try using the narrowband signal feature.
^^^ this is what I meant... I didn't realize you were using 2 locations.. I figured the original would have been replaced with wide-band...
I'm not all that familiar with the earlier year difficulties though...
I'm not all that familiar with the earlier year difficulties though...
^^ some people replace a stock sensor with a wideband. The innovate can be programmed to send a narrowband signal so that you can utilize just the wideband and not stock but therea ren't a lot of people that have gone that route and some that did had troubles calibrating it properly. I just went with an easy setup by welding a bung...although I guess I could try using the narrowband signal feature.
I agree with Tony on this. Welding in another bung for you to use the LC-1, is probably the most logical/economical solution.
You aren't using two WBs are you? Seems like if you just used one WB in place of just one o2 sensor, it would cause the calibration problems you mentioned.
Just one WB. I think the problems that people have had are more with not setting the simulated voltage properly.
Using a WB in place of the stock sensor is probably MORE ECONOMICAL than spending time/$$ getting a bung welded but that would replace the sensor on my headers, not the ones on the HFC/TP.
Using a WB in place of the stock sensor is probably MORE ECONOMICAL than spending time/$$ getting a bung welded but that would replace the sensor on my headers, not the ones on the HFC/TP.
thats just the sensor. normally arond $80. but you will need a controller as well.
I would feel really bad hacking up these ART pipes to weld a bung...Its like destroying art.
I would feel really bad hacking up these ART pipes to weld a bung...Its like destroying art.
Just checked out of curiosity and the sensors have gone up...cheapest I found was $96 in a quick 5 minute search. I remember me getting a few for $40 back in the days...lol.
*edit - I just looked at invoice - it was 150...
Last edited by OCG35; Mar 4, 2010 at 12:47 AM.
OEM sensors are expensive because they have the oem harness attached. The same sensor w/o it is quite a bit cheaper.
The LM-1 replacement bosch 5 wire sensor is $80. About the same price as a generic sensor.
The LM-1 replacement bosch 5 wire sensor is $80. About the same price as a generic sensor.
Last edited by Jeff92se; Mar 4, 2010 at 01:04 AM.