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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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subscribed. this is gonna be a very helpfull thread for people looking for good hp gains.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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awesome news, AFE and Weapon-R have agreed to ship me an intake for testing today!


not sure which one they will be sending. weapon-r had some additional terms which I have no problem with accommodating for the testing.

I will be reseting the ECU by disconnecting the battery, not just clearing fuel settings.
I will give the intake a small learning period before the runs
I will give the engine a small cooldown period before the runs
 

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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thats great news. cant wait to see the comparisons.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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so your gonna keep your mods in place and still test out the intakes?

you do realize your mods are already making this test invalid to everyone right?

your tune and mods already change the true gain/loss you may see in the intakes when you dyno run, and yes you definitely would need to do this on a bone stock G to really observe the actual variations....doing it on a modded G is a completely different story, the intakes might be gaining/losing power because of the COMBINATION with the other mods....

But i guess good luck, in the end after spending all this money youll find the best intake for YOUR setup, and not really the best intake in general....and youll be rather disappointed, everyone knows that intakes really arent made for performance increase, and many actually make you lose power....

And as someone said earlier, the conditions in which you are dynoing the car, specially the fact that cold air is blowing straight into your engine, really doesn't compare with real world situations, specially for intakes where cold air is very important, and chances are your not driving your car in the streets with your hood open and cold air blowing straight into it....
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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conversely, when driving the capacity for air to cool the engine is likely greater than the fan that will be blowing on my car, especially at high speeds, I think having the hood open will make up for this slightly.

I think everyone will be able to gain something from this test even if they don't have the same setup as me. My setup really isn't THAT out of the ordinary, its just a car with bolt on's. It's not like I'm doing this on a fully built NA stroker, something that less than 1% of anyone even on these forums will have.

I feel that anyone trying to make power will start with bolt ons, and there is a pretty standard route of what to do. yes there are new things out that will end up changing the game and this doesn't prove whats necessarily best for all applications but it should give a good reference. If an intake is utter trash we should be able to find it here, and I highly doubt that intake will do good on a different setup than mine. likewise, an intake that shines on my setup, will probably do well on any setup. If you have data to prove this otherwise, direct me to it.

I'm really trying to accommodate for a lot of variables, I don't expect to be able to satisfy everyone.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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I was thinking of doing an after market intake. But I think I will keep reading. Looks like many people before me have wasted money for little gains. If anything , buying used will be the way to go.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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Have a question on what to use on the intake gaskets, I may want to take them apart again, I always used W-D40 on all gaskets, BUT I think this may **** off the O2 sensor, is it better to use oil on all the gaskets? TIA Oh and I am doing all the mods this weekend, Berk cats, 5/15 plenum spacer, lower half of plenum, lower intake, and then off to the Dyno to make it all work.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Do it for YOU

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conversely, when driving the capacity for air to cool the engine is likely greater than the fan that will be blowing on my car, especially at high speeds, I think having the hood open will make up for this slightly.

I think everyone will be able to gain something from this test even if they don't have the same setup as me. My setup really isn't THAT out of the ordinary, its just a car with bolt on's. It's not like I'm doing this on a fully built NA stroker, something that less than 1% of anyone even on these forums will have.

I feel that anyone trying to make power will start with bolt ons, and there is a pretty standard route of what to do. yes there are new things out that will end up changing the game and this doesn't prove whats necessarily best for all applications but it should give a good reference. If an intake is utter trash we should be able to find it here, and I highly doubt that intake will do good on a different setup than mine. likewise, an intake that shines on my setup, will probably do well on any setup. If you have data to prove this otherwise, direct me to it.

I'm really trying to accommodate for a lot of variables, I don't expect to be able to satisfy everyone.
I hear you! I always have done it for ME, they said it could not be done, yea right, beat my driving instructor on a road course with a 68 Olds Cutlass, and he had a 280ZX fully done, but they said it could not happen??? Oh well they just don't know the power of determination!
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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Oh and one thing I forgot to mention, the race was on a road course, Bridgehampton raceway, Long Island NY 2 mins, 9 sec....RIP.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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I emailed motordyne to see if there was something we could work out for testing with the pipes but received no reply.

however, I was able to find someone local (TrixR4kidz) who was willing to let me use the ART pipes for my testing.

so to confirm, this test will be done with ART pipes installed.

Also called the dyno shop today and confirmed everything. This will probably be done on the 23rd of October at 2 or 3 pm
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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What do ART pipes have to do testing intakes?

I wouldn't be surprised if MotorDyne doesn't send you a set, considering there's already multiple independent dynos for them and have nothing else to prove lol.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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there was just some guys on the 350z forums who were complaining that I was using HFC instead of test pipes.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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One thing to think about! If your doing a plenum change you may want to replace that cheap little part under the intake called the knock sensor, if it goes bad, it is a #&*@ to replace if you have to remove all the parts again! I don't know why the clown that designed this little hiding spot for it had this idea, maybe wanted to punish us! A $20 part and A LOT OF TIME to replace.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Also, when you get the dyno tune, I would hope that you are installing the computer program that allows you to change the power modes on the steering wheel????
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 12:36 AM
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Those who do not help you have nothing to show for their efforts, because you will prove they well have nothing....Oh maybe lots of hype...lol
 
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