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Old 04-28-2006 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 2FastG354U
Russ is a douche and never shows Dyno sheets with Injen CAI on G35's only 350Z's.. He says "search it" and trust me I have and can't find shiz.. He runs around bad mouthing Injen like a queer!! You search it douche bag and show us your sooooooooo many Dyno proven Injen CAI power loss sheets.. Go suck off the owners of Stillen...
Speaking of a douche bag, My guess is spanky the spunk man...........Your on your way out of here.
 
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Old 04-28-2006 | 07:14 PM
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Please back your info up where it says CAIs are no good. Because we know the Stillen CAI is very good, and the JWT (not really a CAI) is good performer as well. I also know the new K&N sealed Box for the 350z works very good too. CAI's work best with MD mods. Tony has proved this. Injen is also known to be the worst CAI for our cars due power loss and unstable power. Don't assume all CAIs are bad when you had one that wasn't good.
None of those are long tube
 
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Old 04-28-2006 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2FastG354U
Russ is a douche and never shows Dyno sheets with Injen CAI on G35's only 350Z's.. He says "search it" and trust me I have and can't find shiz.. He runs around bad mouthing Injen like a queer!! You search it douche bag and show us your sooooooooo many Dyno proven Injen CAI power loss sheets.. Go suck off the owners of Stillen...
I have shown plenty in the past all you have to do is search. I am not the only one who has shown these dynos either.

Queer? What are you 15 years old or something? Grow up kid. I don't bad mouth Injen. I just correcting mis-information.
 
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Old 04-28-2006 | 09:20 PM
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G35 TX you are so full of it!!!!! You search itttttt and show us please I told you I tried searching it.. Your lies are being exposed... You are a liar and you act like you have info that can back this up.. I am sick of you and your lies... I came up with a Dyno sheet of a G35 not a 350Z showing that Stillen adds no horse power at all. You bring me a 350Z Dyno sheet that was so bogus it was funny by the way.. I started this thread to talk about the product that I bought and tell people how good it is. Not hear your mouth run off with total made up BS that you can't prove.. I know you have searched it and can't come up with the proof because I have searched it to death!
 
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Old 04-28-2006 | 09:28 PM
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If thats what you believe so be it.
 
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Old 04-28-2006 | 10:40 PM
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From Mr350Z at my350z.com

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...181592&page=12

Hi Guys.
Just dropping a note to vouch for Tony at Motordyne. It was my 2005 '287' car we did the testing on. Prior to plenum mods, the car only had NISMO headers and the NISMO exhaust and a CAI. As you can see from the dyno graphs the gains are rather significant with both the new lower plenum and the 5/16 spacer.

The replacement of the CAI with the stock intake, plus the plenum and spacer mods neted me over 30whp. The car now pulls like a freight train with a tidal wave of torque throughout the power band. The best part about the plenum mods (5/16" spacer) is that it is totally inconspicuous. The engine bay looks stock and the OE strut bar is retained. There is no rubbing. The kit itself is really top notch. All the hardware for both the taller plenum and raised strut bar is included, in addition new gaskets are also included. Try going to the hardware store and finding the right bolts, could be a challenge.

All in all, it's an easy, high quality mod worth doing. Any questions...let me know.
John
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Now, i ask. Why would he remove his Long Tube Intake if he did not have to?

And here is his Dyno

 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 12:22 AM
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Pick the CAI and exhaust combination you like best! Injen or Stillen?

And a short tube CAI for us old AT Sedan owners...

Sorry I don't have the mean average torque and horsepower numbers available.


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Old 04-29-2006 | 07:28 AM
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Looks like on DaveO's Dyno sheets the Injen did have a gain of 8 fly wheel hp.. At the top of the sheet in very fine print it says fly wheel horse power.. I don't see a power loss but a power gain of 8hp..
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveO
Pick the CAI and exhaust combination you like best! Injen or Stillen?

And a short tube CAI for us old AT Sedan owners...

Sorry I don't have the mean average torque and horsepower numbers available.


DaveO
Dave are all these Injens or Stillens? I don't see on them which intake is which for the dyno. Thanks.
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2FastG354U
Looks like on DaveO's Dyno sheets the Injen did have a gain of 8 fly wheel hp.. At the top of the sheet in very fine print it says fly wheel horse power.. I don't see a power loss but a power gain of 8hp..
The Injen & Stillen Dynapack dyno results are both car's three rear hub power pulls done on the same dyno. The flywheel horsepower is a correction factor that can be included if the dyno operator elects to do so. It's seldom used and wasn't in these cases.

As for an 8 horsepower increase I don't understand. I intended to have the forum members compare the difference between G35 MTs, one with Injen CAI & Exhaust the other with a Stillen CAI & Exhaust. Both have MREV+.

While not ideal, I did a quick across the board comparsion this morning. (Due to the size it's real hard to read to the exact number. Since I spend 99% of my time on the street, torque comes first in my comparsion. (I won't argue that my numbers may be off by a little, but not on purpose.)

Here's what I see when reviewing these two charts.

RPM -- Injen tq/hp -- Stillen tq/hp
2500 - 222 / 102 ---- 228 / 112
3000 - 228 / 130 ---- 243 / 140
3500 - 238 / 160 ---- 250 / 168
4000 - 247 / 190 ---- 252 / 192
4500 - 248 / 220 ---- 263 / 232
5000 - 248 / 238 ---- 255 / 245
5500 - 237 / 250 ---- 248 / 260
6000 - 232 / 260 ---- 235 / 270
6500 - 215 / 262 ---- 215 / 265

Based on my limited data these results seem to be pretty typical with other cars I've seen with similiar mods.

The other two Dynojet dyno results are from a popular short tube CAI tested in 2002 on a totally stock doggie door AT Sedan.

DaveO
 

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Old 04-29-2006 | 11:05 AM
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Good info DaveO. Thank you!

Originally Posted by DaveO
The Injen & Stillen Dynapack dyno results are both three rear hub power pulls done on the same dyno. The flywheel horsepower is a correction factor that can be included if the dyno operator elects to do so. It's seldom used and wasn't in these cases.

As for an 8 horsepower increase I don't understand. I intended to have the forum members compare the difference between G35 MTs, one with Injen CAI & Exhaust the other with a Stillen CAI & Exhaust.

Here's what I see and while not ideal, I did a quick across the board comparsion this morning. (Due to the size it's real hard to read to the exact number. Since I spend 99% of my time on the street, torque comes first in my comparsion. (I won't argue that my numbers may be off by a little, but not on purpose.)

RPM -- Injen tq/hp -- Stillen tq/hp
2500 - 222 / 102 ---- 228 / 112
3000 - 228 / 130 ---- 243 / 140
3500 - 238 / 160 ---- 250 / 168
4000 - 247 / 190 ---- 252 / 192
4500 - 248 / 220 ---- 283 / 232
5000 - 248 / 238 ---- 255 / 245
5500 - 237 / 250 ---- 248 / 260
6000 - 232 / 260 ---- 235 / 270
6500 - 215 / 262 ---- 215 / 265

Based on my limited data these results seem to be pretty typical with other cars I've seen with similiar mods.

DaveO
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 11:24 AM
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you are trying to tell me that a stillen intake dynoe'd almost 40 more ft-lbs than a injen intake, on the same dyno, same day, same car, etc..?

I call shenangens on that one.

That graph looks like the graph of a turbo car with one spooling up quicker than another one. What it really is, is someone hit the gas pedal on one run a smidge before they hit it on another run.
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 11:25 AM
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Good stuff DaveO. Thanks for sharing that info. Hey, Dave . . . Have you tested the Stillen HFAB with the Popcharger filter element? I am thinking about doing that.
 
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Old 04-29-2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cracker Red
you are trying to tell me that a stillen intake dynoe'd almost 40 more ft-lbs than a injen intake, on the same dyno, same day, same car, etc..?

I call shenangens on that one.

That graph looks like the graph of a turbo car with one spooling up quicker than another one. What it really is, is someone hit the gas pedal on one run a smidge before they hit it on another run.
Cracker Red,

IMO your comments are truely astounding... and people ask me why I don't post results like this more often.

I'm not trying to tell you a thing. These results are what they are. Same dyno, two different N/A cars, same dyno procedure, same correction factor, same essential atmospheric conditions.


Andy,

Thanks for the positive comments.

It's real hard to "test" the difference between the Stillen and JWT air filter on a dyno--open hood, limited air flow, etc. The TechTom indicates a small improvement in air flow and intake air temperature. While installing my lastest modified lower collector, I decided to clean the JWT air filter element. The body of the filter was dirty like usual from main air duct side air flow. The amount of dirt and bugs caught in the filter's open end was notable.


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Old 04-29-2006 | 12:34 PM
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LOL . . . Dave, you just keep posting your info. It's quite helpful to the majority of us. For those whom question a certain given data . . . Like with the rest of us, we ultimately discern/decide what is beneficial to suit our purposes and needs.
 


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