Top Secret, What do you have to hide??
Originally Posted by silviaparts
Several years back, Wings West was up for sales, and VIS's owners bought it. VIS is huge now, there's a really interesting story behind them. They are started by 5 brothers and sisters, their initial goal was to put all the other companies out of business by a price war and conquer the whole industry, which never worked, but made the industry much less profitable. Carbon fiber hoods never used to be this cheap before they screwed themselves.
VIS even put Abflug out of business. They certainly aren't well-liked by other companies.
VIS even put Abflug out of business. They certainly aren't well-liked by other companies.
Wow, VIS has gotten that big!!! I used to be heavily into the car scene several years ago. I've been out and gave up on cars for about 4 years, so I havent kept up with anything since. I didnt know VIS grew to be that big! I'm returing to the world of auto enthusiasts to find that alot of things are the same, but even more things are extremely different... in the most bizarre way! I remember VIS being a little bodykit place that looked like they didnt have much going for themselves. They even made a mold off of one of my buddy's R34 Skyline bumpers and are selling it everywhere now! And now they own Wings West!?!? WOW!
Originally Posted by G352NV
Im so pissed right now I cant even think straight!
Originally Posted by G352NV
Facts are facts I ALWAYS post as such.
Originally Posted by G352NV
Sometimes people dont understand me and why I say what I say. Ive owned so many parts and toys. If I think something isnt great then I speak my mind, it doesnt matter if I own it or not. I try and save people the drama I go through and the money. L8 Im done with this.
I apologize if I'm coming across like a jerk in this thread, I will not let this situation carry over into any other thread, but I cannot take false accusations sitting down.
Last edited by TOPSECRET2001; Jun 8, 2005 at 03:02 PM.
Ok bro whatever you say. Like I said before facts are facts. I gave info on the hood. IT WAS A FACT! How do you know it was the Havoline car? Hmm. Its not second hand, I saw the car in PERSON! So whats the reason why other threads in that section can have posts but yours cant?? If I did something wrong and you had nothing to do with my posted being deleted then why is the thread now locked and no one can post in it? If a mod did it on their own why didnt they PM ME and tell me I was in the wrong and just delete my post? If you had nothing to do with it then Im sorry. BUT how you wouldnt I dont know. In the end it really doesnt matter at this point. Ill stand behind my post to the end. Tell you what Ill edit the topic and the members can make up their own minds. In the end I gave a report about your hood, it was the TRUTH! Like it or not!
BTW I now have the Seibon hood in my garage. Now that Ive seen both would you like a report? Oh wait a sec. This is the wrong section for that.
BTW I now have the Seibon hood in my garage. Now that Ive seen both would you like a report? Oh wait a sec. This is the wrong section for that.
Originally Posted by G352NV
TS you can think what you want, Im done with YOU and you can take that how you want.
Originally Posted by G352NV
L8 Im done with this.
I'm only going to respond to what's relevent because. This thread is getting too off topic.
Originally Posted by G352NV
So whats the reason why other threads in that section can have posts but yours cant?? If I did something wrong and you had nothing to do with my posted being deleted then why is the thread now locked and no one can post in it?
Originally Posted by G352NV
If a mod did it on their own why didnt they PM ME and tell me I was in the wrong and just delete my post?
Originally Posted by G352NV
BUT how you wouldnt I dont know. In the end it really doesnt matter at this point. Ill stand behind my post to the end. Tell you what Ill edit the topic and the members can make up their own minds. In the end I gave a report about your hood, it was the TRUTH! Like it or not!
BTW I now have the Seibon hood in my garage. Now that Ive seen both would you like a report? Oh wait a sec. This is the wrong section for that.
BTW I now have the Seibon hood in my garage. Now that Ive seen both would you like a report? Oh wait a sec. This is the wrong section for that.
Originally Posted by G352NV
If you had nothing to do with it then Im sorry.
I had nothing to do with it, apology accepted. Now I'de say this is "done."
Ignoring the drama, I just thought Id toss in my .02 in regards to why 'replicator's dont modify their 'replicas'. I imagine it would take alot more work and R&D to modify a product to be original rather than simply replicating one. Knowing this, the point of a replica is to save people and the replicator money, therefore if the replicator spends more money on R&D and modifying an existing design there would really be no cost savings.
That being said, I have seen and read many of G352NV (Steve's) posts and IMO he seems very unbiased and honest. I am glad to have a member like him on this forum as its hard to get unbiased opinions on products these days. TS can price their parts at whatever price they see fit as its a product they have developed and researched. after all its about capitalism, but in a capitalistic society there are issues w/ copying/manipulating other's products hence all these patent/copyright laws being broken.
This also reminds me, in the vendor classifieds I saw an add from I believe Concept Z performance advertising the INJEN SES exhaust. Well since I have read a dozen or so threads regarding fiberglass issues I figured Id post in the thread about it. I simply said 'If only the INJEN didnt blow fiberglass all over the rear bumper'. They replied that the issue is resolved by new exhausts that INJEN sent them, however I also know INJEN replaced many resonators but people still have the same problem with the new resonators but dont know anything about the new exhaust. However this thread or my post was not removed/deleted. The thread is below...
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56468
That being said, I have seen and read many of G352NV (Steve's) posts and IMO he seems very unbiased and honest. I am glad to have a member like him on this forum as its hard to get unbiased opinions on products these days. TS can price their parts at whatever price they see fit as its a product they have developed and researched. after all its about capitalism, but in a capitalistic society there are issues w/ copying/manipulating other's products hence all these patent/copyright laws being broken.
This also reminds me, in the vendor classifieds I saw an add from I believe Concept Z performance advertising the INJEN SES exhaust. Well since I have read a dozen or so threads regarding fiberglass issues I figured Id post in the thread about it. I simply said 'If only the INJEN didnt blow fiberglass all over the rear bumper'. They replied that the issue is resolved by new exhausts that INJEN sent them, however I also know INJEN replaced many resonators but people still have the same problem with the new resonators but dont know anything about the new exhaust. However this thread or my post was not removed/deleted. The thread is below...
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56468
Last edited by pdjafari; Jun 9, 2005 at 04:11 PM.
Originally Posted by pdjafari
Ignoring the drama, I just thought Id toss in my .02 in regards to why 'replicator's dont modify their 'replicas'. I imagine it would take alot more work and R&D to modify a product to be original rather than simply replicating one. Knowing this, the point of a replica is to save people and the replicator money, therefore if the replicator spends more money on R&D and modifying an existing design there would really be no cost savings.
That being said, I have seen and read many of G352NV (Steve's) posts and IMO he seems very unbiased and honest. I am glad to have a member like him on this forum as its hard to get unbiased opinions on products these days. TS can price their parts at whatever price they see fit as its a product they have developed and researched. after all its about capitalism, but in a capitalistic society there are issues w/ copying/manipulating other's products hence all these patent/copyright laws being broken.
This also reminds me, in the vendor classifieds I saw an add from I believe Concept Z performance advertising the INJEN SES exhaust. Well since I have read a dozen or so threads regarding fiberglass issues I figured Id post in the thread about it. I simply said 'If only the INJEN didnt blow fiberglass all over the rear bumper'. They replied that the issue is resolved by new exhausts that INJEN sent them, however I also know INJEN replaced many resonators but people still have the same problem with the new resonators but dont know anything about the new exhaust. However this thread or my post was not removed/deleted. The thread is below...
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56468
That being said, I have seen and read many of G352NV (Steve's) posts and IMO he seems very unbiased and honest. I am glad to have a member like him on this forum as its hard to get unbiased opinions on products these days. TS can price their parts at whatever price they see fit as its a product they have developed and researched. after all its about capitalism, but in a capitalistic society there are issues w/ copying/manipulating other's products hence all these patent/copyright laws being broken.
This also reminds me, in the vendor classifieds I saw an add from I believe Concept Z performance advertising the INJEN SES exhaust. Well since I have read a dozen or so threads regarding fiberglass issues I figured Id post in the thread about it. I simply said 'If only the INJEN didnt blow fiberglass all over the rear bumper'. They replied that the issue is resolved by new exhausts that INJEN sent them, however I also know INJEN replaced many resonators but people still have the same problem with the new resonators but dont know anything about the new exhaust. However this thread or my post was not removed/deleted. The thread is below...
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56468
I requested that the knockoff promotion thread be removed. Based on the forum's rules alone, he should not have been advertising it outside of the premier members forums. I'll leave it at that.
As for censorship or free speech, I have been totally up front with my actions and if I was trying to be some dictator, why would this thread still exist.
As for censorship or free speech, I have been totally up front with my actions and if I was trying to be some dictator, why would this thread still exist.
Originally Posted by BlackonBlackG35
It sucks that we dont have freedom of speech on this website!
Top Secret, are you sure your not located in North Korea instead of Japan?
Top Secret, are you sure your not located in North Korea instead of Japan?
Wow, talk about a smear campaign.
this was Kyle's (Godzilla and owner of site) response to why he removed my thread...
"The original tread was removed by me mainly due to g35driver does not want to be liable for any of the postings in regards to the copy of Top Secret Products.
I know that TS is pretty active in taking legal actions and honestly it causes more greif for me keeping the posts open than closed due.
If I get dragged into court due to someone's posting it only causes me more trouble and I dont have the time nor the money for that to happen."
Top Secret runs this place.
"The original tread was removed by me mainly due to g35driver does not want to be liable for any of the postings in regards to the copy of Top Secret Products.
I know that TS is pretty active in taking legal actions and honestly it causes more greif for me keeping the posts open than closed due.
If I get dragged into court due to someone's posting it only causes me more trouble and I dont have the time nor the money for that to happen."
Top Secret runs this place.
Originally Posted by TOPSECRET2001
I requested that the knockoff promotion thread be removed. Based on the forum's rules alone, he should not have been advertising it outside of the premier members forums. I'll leave it at that.
As for censorship or free speech, I have been totally up front with my actions and if I was trying to be some dictator, why would this thread still exist.
As for censorship or free speech, I have been totally up front with my actions and if I was trying to be some dictator, why would this thread still exist.



