I need to find the specs from Philips...it seems like there are different people saying different things..

 

So technically Philips doesnt even make 5K bulbs. This is news to me. But good news is Ive been using 85122+ and it has the highest lumen rating...phew.

 

I'm using a set of 85122+ and they are definetly not 5000k, they are yellowish, just like the stock bulbs, I think my stock bulbs may also be 85122+, its just a newer version of the 85122, which doesn't color shift as much

 

Yes, you'd think a site as big as HIDplanet.com would get the specs right, and even after some long time members pointed it out, they still haven't revised their listings, its pretty confusing in general

 

read this from Automotive Lighting Faq

Legend:
OEM=Original Manufacturer Equipment
aftermarked=sold as spare bulbs or manufacturer of kit
Bulb base: P32-d

85122: D2S. Color is bluer white with slight greenish tone.
85122+: D2S CM (Plus). 5000K. Aftermarked only. Ment to pair up with used 85122. Released Q4, 2002.
85122WX: D2S Ultinon. Aftermarked only. Released Dec 2001. Ultinons label on bulb were later relabled to " Philips BL-2 Non automotive use"
85123: D2S. Color is bluer white with slight purple tone. Not officially on Philips product list. Nevertheless, it is found in some BMW OEM HID headlamps. Click here for a color comparison to 85122.
85407: D1S. Integrated ignitor.
85407+: D1S CM (Plus). Integrated ignitor. Aftermarked only. Ment to pair up with used 85407. Released Q4, 2002.
85126: D2R.
85126+: D2R CM (Plus). 5000K. Aftermarked only. Ment to pair up with used 85126. Released Q4, 2002.
85126WX: D2R. Ultinon. Aftermarked only. Released Dec 2001.
85408: D1R. Integrated ignitor.
85408+: D1R CM (Plus). Integrated ignitor. Aftermarked only. Ment to pair up with used 85408. Released Q4, 2002.

 

I know many holds the automotive site as the lighting bible. So honestly..who is right?

 

More to add to the confusion, in this thread, someone asks philips at the tokyo motor show.
Here are questions and answers at Philips booth at 2005 Tokyo motor show.

Q: What is difference between 85122 and 85122+?
A: There is no actual difference, just distinguished by production date.

Q: Have you ever sold 5000K as 85122+?
A: No, 5000K bulb is 85122CM or CX (for Japanese market) in the past and present.

Q: Is there possibility that certain Lots of 85122+ were manufactured as 5000K for specific market?
A: Never, and the product numbers are common throughout the world.

In fact, I have 4 new 85122+, they all are yellowish than used (less than 100 hours) 85122

 

I can tell you my 85122+ are very yellow, and aren't even close to other 5000k bulbs I've seen so I pretty sure they are 4200k. I bought a set of spare OEM g35 projectors with OEM bulbs and ballast and they were 85122+ and came stock, so unless infiniti is including 5000k bulbs stock, I doubt they are 5000k. The auto lighting faq also states they are aftermarket only, when they came stock on my projectors, so they are wrong there already, so why couldn't they be wrong on the color also?

 

I was looking at the germany website, and the one pictured under bluevision was 85122CX
So the entire general population of HID community has it wrong...

 

Not everyone, read through that latest thread I posted, and alot of people are straightening things out. Even HIDplanet admits to the confusion on page 2

 

also found from philips lighting australia
http://www.philipslighting.com.au/he...hp?group=Xenon

85122CX 5000K* D2S 85V 35 P32d-2 Cl

 

I need to get me some to compare this.

Found from a germen auto forum:

85122+ = d2s philips plus = kleiner 4000k = zugelassen
85122 = d2s philips serie = 4100-4200k = zugelassen
85122cx = d2s philips bluevision = 4500-5000k = zugelassen
85122cm = d2s philips colormatch = 4800-5000k = zugelassen
85122wx = d2s philips ultinon = 6000k = nicht zugelassen

85126+ = d2r philips plus = kleiner 4000k = zugelassen
85126 = d2r philips serie = 4100-4200k = zugelassen
85126cx = d2r philips bluevision = 4500-5000k = zugelassen
85126cm = d2r philips colormatch = 4800-5000k = zugelassen
85126wx = d2r philips ultinon = 6000k = nicht zugelassen

 

Look at all the ones philps makes even in 6700K

http://www.npinet.co.jp/contents/car_xenon.html#04

 

I thought the ultinon 6000k's were bad enough already. How much more light can you sacrifice for color? They already are 25% dimmer than stock

 

I want some of those 3000k's though for my quad retrofit, too bad they are $150 each and come with broken insulators