Clear Sidemarkers have arrived.
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From: Duluth Minnesota
Idaho not a big deal either...
(a) On each side, two (2) side marker lamps, one (1) at or near the front
and one (1) at or near the rear; and
They just have to be there here, they don't care about color either. That is right from the statute.
(a) On each side, two (2) side marker lamps, one (1) at or near the front
and one (1) at or near the rear; and
They just have to be there here, they don't care about color either. That is right from the statute.
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From: Duluth Minnesota
Looks like they don't car in wisconsin either...
I think I have made my point, so I am going to quit looking these up. If they are not legal in Cali, my bad... I'm sorry, it looks like California's uber erestrictive automobile laws a leading the nation in the wrong direction once again.
TRANS 305.14 SIDE MARKER LAMPS . CLEARANCE LAMPS AND REFLEC -
TORS. (1 ) Every motor vehicle originally equipped with side marker lamps , every motor
vehicle manufactured after January 1 , 1969 , every vehicle registered as a homemade
vehicle on or after January 1 , 1975, and every vehicle registered as a reconstructed
vehicle after [Revisor insert the effective date of this chapter] shall be equipped with side
marker lamps and reflectors marking at least the front and rear corners of the vehicle .
(2) Every motor vehicle originally equipped with clearance lamps as defined in s .
340.01 (7), Stats ., or reflectors shall have such lamps or reflectors maintained in
conformity with this section and with ss . 347. 16 to 347 . 19, Stats .
(3) Side marker lamp and clearance lamp wiring and connections shall be
maintained in good condition .
(4) Side marker lamps, clearance lamps and reflectors shall be securely mounted
and maintained in proper working condition .
I think I have made my point, so I am going to quit looking these up. If they are not legal in Cali, my bad... I'm sorry, it looks like California's uber erestrictive automobile laws a leading the nation in the wrong direction once again.
TRANS 305.14 SIDE MARKER LAMPS . CLEARANCE LAMPS AND REFLEC -
TORS. (1 ) Every motor vehicle originally equipped with side marker lamps , every motor
vehicle manufactured after January 1 , 1969 , every vehicle registered as a homemade
vehicle on or after January 1 , 1975, and every vehicle registered as a reconstructed
vehicle after [Revisor insert the effective date of this chapter] shall be equipped with side
marker lamps and reflectors marking at least the front and rear corners of the vehicle .
(2) Every motor vehicle originally equipped with clearance lamps as defined in s .
340.01 (7), Stats ., or reflectors shall have such lamps or reflectors maintained in
conformity with this section and with ss . 347. 16 to 347 . 19, Stats .
(3) Side marker lamp and clearance lamp wiring and connections shall be
maintained in good condition .
(4) Side marker lamps, clearance lamps and reflectors shall be securely mounted
and maintained in proper working condition .
WRAH
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From: Columbus, OH (Area)
Originally Posted by ashadiow
Guess it isn't a big deal in FL either:
officer testified that he stopped the defendant because his side marker lights were not working. The defendant argues that the Florida statutes do not require side marker lights; therefore, there can be no violation even if they were not working properly.
This Court reviews this matter under a de novo standard. Ornealas v. United States, 517 U.S. 690 (1996); Connor v. State, 803 So.2d 608 (Fla. 2001). The Court is not persuaded by the State’s argument that Florida law requires side marker lights. None of the statutes cited by the State require side marker lights. Also, stopping the defendant because of an equipment violation is not warranted under the facts of this case because the non-working marker lights did not cause an immediate danger to any one.
officer testified that he stopped the defendant because his side marker lights were not working. The defendant argues that the Florida statutes do not require side marker lights; therefore, there can be no violation even if they were not working properly.
This Court reviews this matter under a de novo standard. Ornealas v. United States, 517 U.S. 690 (1996); Connor v. State, 803 So.2d 608 (Fla. 2001). The Court is not persuaded by the State’s argument that Florida law requires side marker lights. None of the statutes cited by the State require side marker lights. Also, stopping the defendant because of an equipment violation is not warranted under the facts of this case because the non-working marker lights did not cause an immediate danger to any one.
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Sedan
Originally Posted by ashadiow
California has a lot of stupid laws regarding vehicles. After being there for 3 months and seeing a bunch of cars pulled over by 5 or 6 police officers with the vehicles hood up, and the officers running around the vehicle with a tape measure I was ready to leave. Is it really nessesary to have 5-6 officers pull someone over to make sure that they are meeting emissions and they are riding high / low enough... come on now.
Originally Posted by ashadiow
I was under the impression that they had to "reflect light" during the day and needed to shine amber in color at night. The color during the day is irrelevant, as long as it reflects. They do not want you putting clear lenses like the ones on the headlamps because they do not reflect. The ones from the skyline do just that.
And WRAH is right it is a Federal DOT law, although some states do not enforce it.
asadiow, you just need to be careful when making blanket statements with misinformation.
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Originally Posted by WRAH
You still have to have amber reflectors per DOT federal laws.
On the subject of reflectors, it says:
"Reflex reflectors.... 4 red; 2 amber..... SAE J594f, January 1977."
On the subject of side marker lights, it says:
"Side marker lamps.... 2 red; 2 amber.... SAE J592e, July 1972."
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Originally Posted by Noremac
Correct. I know all of you anxiously desire to stay in complaince of all federal regulations, so for some light reading, here is the link to CFR 49, Part 571, Section 108; Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
On the subject of reflectors, it says:
"Reflex reflectors.... 4 red; 2 amber..... SAE J594f, January 1977."
On the subject of side marker lights, it says:
"Side marker lamps.... 2 red; 2 amber.... SAE J592e, July 1972."
On the subject of reflectors, it says:
"Reflex reflectors.... 4 red; 2 amber..... SAE J594f, January 1977."
On the subject of side marker lights, it says:
"Side marker lamps.... 2 red; 2 amber.... SAE J592e, July 1972."
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Wow, I can't believe how much attention this post has gotten. There are alot of things we do to our cars that make them "illegal". Pulling cats to put on test pipes, clear corners, tint, liscense plate covers, etc. If a cop pulls you over for clear corners, he has other things on his mind or he has nothing else to do. I just say if you want clears, put them on! If not, so be it. Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by RichK
Wow, I can't believe how much attention this post has gotten. There are alot of things we do to our cars that make them "illegal". Pulling cats to put on test pipes, clear corners, tint, liscense plate covers, etc. If a cop pulls you over for clear corners, he has other things on his mind or he has nothing else to do. I just say if you want clears, put them on! If not, so be it. Sheesh.
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If the cops won't get you... in LA they are sometimes a little busy with little stuff like drive-by's, then the absolutely **** parking ticket morons won't forget to write you up! 
Two most annoying and lame reasons that will get you a ticket are probably no front license plate and clear corners (i think)!
Two most annoying and lame reasons that will get you a ticket are probably no front license plate and clear corners (i think)!
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From: SI, NY
Clear corners
Anyway, so where can I buy the best ones for the cheapest price?
Ebay has them for over $40 shipped. Anyone know a good reliable source?
I have a ivory pearl coupe, and those clear side markers are a must!
Ebay has them for over $40 shipped. Anyone know a good reliable source?
I have a ivory pearl coupe, and those clear side markers are a must!
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