Well, I only did the rears in Falkens and they were 270ish installed-remember those are 20 though! Check tireseasy.com-I haven't found anyone that is cheaper than them. You definitely need camber kits for your rears and fronts based on how low you are.

I was actually pretty impressed at how fast you were too! Do you have a six speed and/or engine mods? There were sections when I think you were actually pulling in on me from behind on WOT. It's nice to lead though because you don't have to worry about the car in front of you braking and stuff.

imma put an end to the whole dilema on TIRES...

Called the company inquring about my rims...so thought I'd ask about tires!! Falken FK452's have the exxxxact same specs as KDW's. They said KDW's are mostly put on american cars because they "look bulkier", and the tread patter is different, but every single test and rating of materials used in the tires is the EXACT SAME! Price difference is 1056 for 4 KDdubs compared to just udner 650 of FK452's.

whaaaaLA

lol yeah they are tanabe df210? i got the lowest one. no there not cut, i got them like that. i was surpise how low it was after i got them on. but i love it the way it is. ahha yeah my camber is really badd, i need to save up and get camber kit and new set of tires..

Well, I was referring to crossing lanes after I had looked at the TL in the ditch pictures. I think about weird sh*t like that... No doubt it's all about control, but to a certain extent "testing new driving tactics" should purely be left out of a cruise.

Yeah, I noticed that at the scene and it kind of pissed me off to see that he was that far over in the other lane especially coming out of a turn. I never crossed the line unless I could see clearly for a noticeable distance that there were no cars coming and this was on mild apexes and not sharp corners.

^i do think he under steered and thats how he crossed (FWD ftl...) because whenever i looked back, he was always on the correct side, even going around corners.

He definitely did not understeer on this turn. His car was facing the direction we were coming from and if you look at the skid marks, his rear swung around. A shift in momentum and speed can put any car sideways and when it's a fwd, you KNOW that he had too much of either one or both to be in the position he was. If he loss control while understeering, he would have been in the ditch on the other side of the road.

My best guess is that he gassed it too soon going into that turn and the momentum of the turn caused his rear to slide.

I bet he hit sand or something. That is my guess.

I bet he was trying to drift around the corner like he said he was doing

First off, I think that driving a FWD is fairly unpredictable around corners especially if you're inexperienced with twisties like the ones we were on! I do agree with Peng that he PROBABLY didn't understeered or he would've been on the other side of the road. Which leaves two options. Either he WAS trying to drift like Kyle said which would mean that he didn't really think that decision through (two cars following him around corners at fairly high speed and there is a big chance that he would cause those cars to go out of control/hit him if he got out of control since he's in the front!). Or he was just SOO excited that he wanted to go faster and push his car more and more until that happened. Which I do agree with everyone that this should've been left for a different day but no one learns for free! I think we shouldn’t over analyze this because unless we were in the car at the time, we really can't be a fair judge! I know that everyone is really glad that no one/car gotten hurt cuz that would have ruined everything, and I think this incident shouldn't only be a lesson for him but for all of us. I know that I'll be keeping it in mind on future cruises and make sure that I’m comfortable with every turn I take (and hopefully I didn’t just jinks myself!!!). Thats all

^i agree lol

I remember when we had nice leisurely cruises. Nice and relaxing

Psh they were only leisurly when the Z club doesnt come haha

Yep. My favorite was probably still when we went up to Duluth...that was good times for sure

I call BS that that was a leisurly drive.


I have YET to beat that time going to duluth. We did it in like, under 2 hours or some crazy fast time.