ticket @ McD's on Haight.
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Joined: Dec 2008
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From: San Jose, CA
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^^^ Twilight is right
They WILL find you. the last 7 identify your car, the first set identifies the make/model of the vehicle--usually production area, etc..
why do you not have the plates? Is the car new? or you ordered personalized plates? //didn't get assigned any yet?
you can try to see a judge,but if i were you..just tell the judge you didn't get them yet and put the plates on when you do + pay the $20 bucks or whatever the amount is nowadays ..
They WILL find you. the last 7 identify your car, the first set identifies the make/model of the vehicle--usually production area, etc..
why do you not have the plates? Is the car new? or you ordered personalized plates? //didn't get assigned any yet?
you can try to see a judge,but if i were you..just tell the judge you didn't get them yet and put the plates on when you do + pay the $20 bucks or whatever the amount is nowadays ..
Last edited by KungFuPanda; 06-15-2009 at 08:49 PM.
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here's a brief summary of what a vin is/how it works:
The first 3 digits define the manufacturer. The first of these digits is usually the country of origin. For example, all VINs that start with J are producted in Japan and those that stat with W are Germany.
Characters 4 through 8 are specific to that manufacturer's model for a given model year.
The 9th digit is a check digit. VINs can actually be validated through a mathematical formula to ensure they are valid.
The 10th digit is a year. For example, an 8 is for 2008, 7 is for 2007
The 11th digit is for the plant that manufactured the vehicle, in coordination with the manufacturer
The remaining 12th through 17th digits are more or less the serial number of that particular vehicle for the specified make/model as defined by the VIN.
The first 3 digits define the manufacturer. The first of these digits is usually the country of origin. For example, all VINs that start with J are producted in Japan and those that stat with W are Germany.
Characters 4 through 8 are specific to that manufacturer's model for a given model year.
The 9th digit is a check digit. VINs can actually be validated through a mathematical formula to ensure they are valid.
The 10th digit is a year. For example, an 8 is for 2008, 7 is for 2007
The 11th digit is for the plant that manufactured the vehicle, in coordination with the manufacturer
The remaining 12th through 17th digits are more or less the serial number of that particular vehicle for the specified make/model as defined by the VIN.
#6
Heey...sorry about your ticket. I've been to that McDonald's before...just to use the bathroom though haha. Anyway, yes, they can still hunt you down with a partial VIN just like they find people with partial plate numbers. They have a program where they can just run it and find all vehicles with your car description.
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Of course he can't put the plates on if he doesn't have them, BUT the question is, why does he not have possession of plates?
vehicle code section 5200. (a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear.
So in summary, as long as the DMV shows that license plates are registered to your car, you're liable for any no plate tickets incurred while you do not have them on. You're suppose to pick them up from the DMV (if applicable) or notify the DMV if your plates were lost/damaged or you never received them.
The DMV will automatically issue you new plates on the spot.
That goes especially for used vehicles in which the previous owners did not give you the license plates and for new vehicles that came with registration stickers-- DMV should have processed and made plates available within 6 months of your purchase .. otherwise, give them a call and find out what's going on.
When I bought my G, I never got plates-- I had paper plates and a dealership sticker. I got F****ed up by the cops big time once my car was over 6 months in my possession, It is then a non-compliance issue since we as the registered owner are responsible to ensure our vehicle's adherence to the laws.
vehicle code section 5200. (a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear.
So in summary, as long as the DMV shows that license plates are registered to your car, you're liable for any no plate tickets incurred while you do not have them on. You're suppose to pick them up from the DMV (if applicable) or notify the DMV if your plates were lost/damaged or you never received them.
The DMV will automatically issue you new plates on the spot.
That goes especially for used vehicles in which the previous owners did not give you the license plates and for new vehicles that came with registration stickers-- DMV should have processed and made plates available within 6 months of your purchase .. otherwise, give them a call and find out what's going on.
When I bought my G, I never got plates-- I had paper plates and a dealership sticker. I got F****ed up by the cops big time once my car was over 6 months in my possession, It is then a non-compliance issue since we as the registered owner are responsible to ensure our vehicle's adherence to the laws.
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Methodikal, one more thing..
from a legal stand point, a peace officer can issue you a ticket for an unaccompanied car (in other words, you not being there with it) on public property..
However, I do not believe he can do so on private property (G35Chippie would have better knowledge on public vs private property laws)
If your vehicle was parked on the private property area (let's say, the parking lot of Mc'D is owned by a private individual/entity-- not the city) you might be able to fight it from that stand point
from a legal stand point, a peace officer can issue you a ticket for an unaccompanied car (in other words, you not being there with it) on public property..
However, I do not believe he can do so on private property (G35Chippie would have better knowledge on public vs private property laws)
If your vehicle was parked on the private property area (let's say, the parking lot of Mc'D is owned by a private individual/entity-- not the city) you might be able to fight it from that stand point
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now that you mention it V, I don't know what he got ticketed for either
All he mentioned was BS ticket and he had no plates so the cop wrote his last 7 of the VIN down
Methodikal, you might have an even better chance of fighting it on the public vs private property route if the ticket was something else (I.e. tint, too low..etc..)
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From: San Jose, CA
allow me to clarify sm things:
1. Ticket was issued b/c I "left the premises". I handed my camera to a friend on Haight, came back w/in the alotted 40 mins.
2. It was a private party who issued the ticket, not DPT/SFPD (so I cant call my cop friend to sign off LoL)
3. It was a printed ticket.
4. I dont have possesion of the plates yet.
I called my cop friend and he said that they shouldnt be able to find me w/ the last 7 digits of my vin and just wait for a notice if there is a notice.
The ticket is $40+ w/in 21 days, and $64 after 21 days...I seriously think it was an uneccessary ticket. i stepped out of McD's for 5 minutes to hand my camera to my friend, and they issued the ticket. GRrrRrrRrrrR
1. Ticket was issued b/c I "left the premises". I handed my camera to a friend on Haight, came back w/in the alotted 40 mins.
2. It was a private party who issued the ticket, not DPT/SFPD (so I cant call my cop friend to sign off LoL)
3. It was a printed ticket.
4. I dont have possesion of the plates yet.
I called my cop friend and he said that they shouldnt be able to find me w/ the last 7 digits of my vin and just wait for a notice if there is a notice.
The ticket is $40+ w/in 21 days, and $64 after 21 days...I seriously think it was an uneccessary ticket. i stepped out of McD's for 5 minutes to hand my camera to my friend, and they issued the ticket. GRrrRrrRrrrR