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Cobb Tuning is building a unit for the G35. The one for the 350Z will not work on the G35. I am told it will hold 3 maps based on modifications and new maps will be downloadable from their website. The unit is supposed to be available in a couple of weeks according to Forged Performance in Marietta, GA. www.cobbtuning.com, www.forgedperformance.com
Originally Posted by familyman333
Cobb Tuning is building a unit for the G35. The one for the 350Z will not work on the G35. I am told it will hold 3 maps based on modifications and new maps will be downloadable from their website. The unit is supposed to be available in a couple of weeks according to Forged Performance in Marietta, GA. www.cobbtuning.com, www.forgedperformance.com
Stay on the OP's topic and don't jack threads.
I concur with App6MT... however; it seems that the post wasn’t necessarily malicious.
If threads pertaining to particular product were continuously cluttered with competing product info it would become less informative an more of a debate (i.e. MT vs. AT)
It would not be acceptable for a vendor to post his/her product in another vendors thread… this isn’t much different.
This thread is specific to Osiris and Church Automotive review… if it were a general “tuning” thread I don’t think it would be an issue.
It's very simple to start a new thread with another product info and review.
If threads pertaining to particular product were continuously cluttered with competing product info it would become less informative an more of a debate (i.e. MT vs. AT)
It would not be acceptable for a vendor to post his/her product in another vendors thread… this isn’t much different.
This thread is specific to Osiris and Church Automotive review… if it were a general “tuning” thread I don’t think it would be an issue.
It's very simple to start a new thread with another product info and review.
Originally Posted by OCG35
I concur with App6MT... however; it seems that the post wasn’t necessarily malicious.
If threads pertaining to particular product were continuously cluttered with competing product info it would become less informative an more of a debate (i.e. MT vs. AT)
It would not be acceptable for a vendor to post his/her product in another vendors thread… this isn’t much different.
This thread is specific to Osiris and Church Automotive review… if it were a general “tuning” thread I don’t think it would be an issue.
It's very simple to start a new thread with another product info and review.
If threads pertaining to particular product were continuously cluttered with competing product info it would become less informative an more of a debate (i.e. MT vs. AT)
It would not be acceptable for a vendor to post his/her product in another vendors thread… this isn’t much different.
This thread is specific to Osiris and Church Automotive review… if it were a general “tuning” thread I don’t think it would be an issue.
It's very simple to start a new thread with another product info and review.
Originally Posted by familyman333
Point taken and understood. Again, my apologies.
Ok, this post is a brief summary of my experience with Shawn Church and Osiris Uprev:
I purchased osiris and cable from SC about 2 months ago and SC agreed to do a remote custom tune, since our vehicles have the same ecu and I could start off with his personal maps.
I received the cable, software, and base maps from SC in a timely fashion (Shawn even express mailed it to me
) and did some data logging on the street and sent these to SC for him to adjust A/F for my maps. SC did this, very very well, and was kind enough to respond to my questions and concerns at this time. I still think SC is one of the best tuners out there, hands down.
Then came time to go to the dyno to test out cam timing to see what my setup wants. SC sent me some maps with different cam timing and I went to the dyno to do this. The shop charged me ~$400 for the time on the dyno, which seemed high, but having the results I sent them to SC for analysis and the custom final maps.
This was over 5 weeks ago!
In the past 5+ weeks I have sent SC numerous e-mails, called multiple times, and have left multiple messages. I received one e-mail from Shawn about 2 weeks ago apologizing for the delay, explaining that March was one of his busiest months and that he was "working on my final maps right now", but I have not heard from him since. Another time I called, I overheard him on the dyno saying that he would be sending me the final maps that night. Never happened.
So about $1100, 2+ months since original purchase, and 1+ month since sending SC my dyno files later, I have 1 map. That's right 1 map. This map has adjusted A/F settings for me, but the cam timing is based on SC's setup, not mine. Also, when I was on the dyno, the 1 composite osiris map I do have performed a little worse than the TS reflash.
SC promised me my final maps, including an economy map, launch control, 100 octane, etc. and has not delivered. I very much hope he still delivers and has not forgotten about me.
My intention is not to bash SC or osiris (The software is great and SC is a very knowledgeable, experienced, and capable tuner). I would just like to get my final maps, after much delay and unanswered inquiries. I think the community deserves to know what I went through. I have even asked a fellow forum member local to SC to ask about my maps next time he stopped by Church Auto since no one is getting back to me.
My suggestion to those looking at getting a custom Osiris tune is to go directly to the tuner and not to do a "remote" tune. If you do not live close to a licensed osiris dealer/tuner, I would suggest ordering direct through uprev because 2+ months and $1100 later, all I have to show for it is 1 map that, although gives me a safer A/F, is not fully optimized for my setup.
Shawn, if you read this I hope you understand that this post is not a personal attack on you, but I do feel somewhat miffed and I would appreciate it if you would follow through with my final maps, or at least contact me via e-mail/phone to give me a real eta. Thank you sir.
I purchased osiris and cable from SC about 2 months ago and SC agreed to do a remote custom tune, since our vehicles have the same ecu and I could start off with his personal maps.
I received the cable, software, and base maps from SC in a timely fashion (Shawn even express mailed it to me
Then came time to go to the dyno to test out cam timing to see what my setup wants. SC sent me some maps with different cam timing and I went to the dyno to do this. The shop charged me ~$400 for the time on the dyno, which seemed high, but having the results I sent them to SC for analysis and the custom final maps.
This was over 5 weeks ago!
In the past 5+ weeks I have sent SC numerous e-mails, called multiple times, and have left multiple messages. I received one e-mail from Shawn about 2 weeks ago apologizing for the delay, explaining that March was one of his busiest months and that he was "working on my final maps right now", but I have not heard from him since. Another time I called, I overheard him on the dyno saying that he would be sending me the final maps that night. Never happened.
So about $1100, 2+ months since original purchase, and 1+ month since sending SC my dyno files later, I have 1 map. That's right 1 map. This map has adjusted A/F settings for me, but the cam timing is based on SC's setup, not mine. Also, when I was on the dyno, the 1 composite osiris map I do have performed a little worse than the TS reflash.
SC promised me my final maps, including an economy map, launch control, 100 octane, etc. and has not delivered. I very much hope he still delivers and has not forgotten about me.
My intention is not to bash SC or osiris (The software is great and SC is a very knowledgeable, experienced, and capable tuner). I would just like to get my final maps, after much delay and unanswered inquiries. I think the community deserves to know what I went through. I have even asked a fellow forum member local to SC to ask about my maps next time he stopped by Church Auto since no one is getting back to me.
My suggestion to those looking at getting a custom Osiris tune is to go directly to the tuner and not to do a "remote" tune. If you do not live close to a licensed osiris dealer/tuner, I would suggest ordering direct through uprev because 2+ months and $1100 later, all I have to show for it is 1 map that, although gives me a safer A/F, is not fully optimized for my setup.
Shawn, if you read this I hope you understand that this post is not a personal attack on you, but I do feel somewhat miffed and I would appreciate it if you would follow through with my final maps, or at least contact me via e-mail/phone to give me a real eta. Thank you sir.
Last edited by jonnylaw; Apr 16, 2008 at 02:41 PM.
Shawn Church is a very respected tuner and I am confident in his tuning abilities. I don't take what happened personally, I realize that I only have "fallen through the cracks" because his business is doing so well locally.
Jared at Uprev was also kind enough to leave a message with Shawn and agreed to work on the maps and help me out if SC is unable to (Thank you Jared!
).
I have dyno and cipher logs with different cam timing maps that SC sent me.
The composite performance map, did gain some mid trq over the TS reflash : 2 different days, same dyno, same gas, same plugs, similar ambien temp's:
blue is the Technosquare reflash
Red is the Osiris reflash with tailored A/F and SC's car's cam timing.
I'm hoping a final map with customized cam timing will bump me up a tad more.

graph of the dyno pulls of the different cam timing maps:
Jared at Uprev was also kind enough to leave a message with Shawn and agreed to work on the maps and help me out if SC is unable to (Thank you Jared!
).I have dyno and cipher logs with different cam timing maps that SC sent me.
The composite performance map, did gain some mid trq over the TS reflash : 2 different days, same dyno, same gas, same plugs, similar ambien temp's:
blue is the Technosquare reflash
Red is the Osiris reflash with tailored A/F and SC's car's cam timing.
I'm hoping a final map with customized cam timing will bump me up a tad more.

graph of the dyno pulls of the different cam timing maps:


