Tein Suspension Choices
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
actually to clear things up just a tad, the CS is a more adjustable suspension coilover, the edfc can be made to work with both coilovers but personally i as well as many of my friends would opt for the CS, that is because: 1. my brother works for tein, 2. u can adjust for different driving style (i.e. we like to track our cars or do lil canyon runs), 3. its a bit harsher of a ride, but with these u can corner really well. Type CS are more expensive, if u do just daily drivin around town and what not i would recommend the FLEX, if u like to tune ur car and put it to its limits, i would highly recommend the TYPE CS.
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
MTN, my understanding is exactly the same as yours . . .
Flex is ride height, damper, and spring preload adjustable . .loosely translated (my understanding) means you can lower the car or adjust the damper as much as you want and still obtain optimal handling quality, has an aluminum pillow mount which is designed for quick steering response - these were designed for use with the EDFC
CS = comfort spec . . designed to be comfortable and sporty, height and damper adjustable, has a aluminum/rubber mount designed for ride quality and road noise
I myself am going with the Basics , only height adjustable, (which are releasing this upcoming week) my car is just for commuting, they're super cheap, and they use the oem upper mount which allows for the most comfortable ride and least road noise, but results in the poorest performance
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by hksjza70 on 08/23/03 09:24 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Flex is ride height, damper, and spring preload adjustable . .loosely translated (my understanding) means you can lower the car or adjust the damper as much as you want and still obtain optimal handling quality, has an aluminum pillow mount which is designed for quick steering response - these were designed for use with the EDFC
CS = comfort spec . . designed to be comfortable and sporty, height and damper adjustable, has a aluminum/rubber mount designed for ride quality and road noise
I myself am going with the Basics , only height adjustable, (which are releasing this upcoming week) my car is just for commuting, they're super cheap, and they use the oem upper mount which allows for the most comfortable ride and least road noise, but results in the poorest performance
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by hksjza70 on 08/23/03 09:24 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
Here's an idea! Don't say you know something if you don't, try the word "I think" that way we can discern fact from belief. Thank you. Have a nice day! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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2003 G35C, 6MT, Navi, Black Obsidian/Graphite
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Re: Tein Suspension Choices
I myslef are going with the Tein Flex Coilovers with the EDFC, the EDFC is just too cool not to install it as well. Hope to have it on within 1-2 months after I am done with my performance mods.
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
to clear up the confusion about the flex cs and basic kits, here is a part of an email i got from tain:
Another kit will also be available in early to mid Sept., which is the CS
kit. It is ride height is adjustable, 16 levels dampening force adjustment,
hybrid aluminum/rubber pillowball mounts, and MSRP price is $1760. The CS
kit is a better ride quality kit, the spring rates are less aggressive than
the both the BASIC and FLEX. The kit is also a little quieter than the FLEX.
The BASIC kit is stiffer than the CS but softer the FLEX, and is probably
the quietest of the three because it retains use of the stock upper mount
but does not have shock level adjustment.
Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
www.tein.com
Another kit will also be available in early to mid Sept., which is the CS
kit. It is ride height is adjustable, 16 levels dampening force adjustment,
hybrid aluminum/rubber pillowball mounts, and MSRP price is $1760. The CS
kit is a better ride quality kit, the spring rates are less aggressive than
the both the BASIC and FLEX. The kit is also a little quieter than the FLEX.
The BASIC kit is stiffer than the CS but softer the FLEX, and is probably
the quietest of the three because it retains use of the stock upper mount
but does not have shock level adjustment.
Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
www.tein.com
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
Hmmmm, exactly HOW are they noiser? If you placed some rubber coilpads over the springs should reduce most if not all of the spring compression noise.
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-Jedi
2003 G35C, 6MT, Navi, Black Obsidian/Graphite
"Use the Forced Induction Luke!"
-Jedi
2003 G35C, 6MT, Navi, Black Obsidian/Graphite
Re: Tein Suspension Choices
Looking at the spring rates they all use and compairing that to the stock spring rates would tell one what your really buying into and explain things quite well.
Basic kit's are priced nice, but you have to agree with how Tein set them and that you'll never have a notion to want to change them or disagree with their settings. Not something I could except, no matter the savings.
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Basic kit's are priced nice, but you have to agree with how Tein set them and that you'll never have a notion to want to change them or disagree with their settings. Not something I could except, no matter the savings.
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Re: Tein Suspension Choices
With the EDFC module running the show, I'd like to see something that spans from "more comfy than the non-sport stock suspension" to "jar your teeth at the track."
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Re: Tein Suspension Choices
Can the EDFC adjust the ride height? At my new school (Seton Hall University) they have speedbumps in the parking lot and my G35c's front end hits them everytime becasue they are really high. I am looking into some good suspension that I can ride lower for increased performance but change them to higher with the push of a buton when going over these bumps. Is there anyone that can give me info? Are the Tein kits the correct choice? I want the best! [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Tein Suspension Choices
malx (Enthusiast)
08/28/03 01:47 PM
Can the EDFC adjust the ride height? At my new school (Seton Hall University) they have speedbumps in the parking lot and my G35c's front end hits them everytime becasue they are really high. I am looking into some good suspension that I can ride lower for increased performance but change them to higher with the push of a buton when going over these bumps. Is there anyone that can give me info? Are the Tein kits the correct choice? I want the best!
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Oh man, those are some mountain high speed bumps ehh? Well, their aren't any coilover systems out that will raise or lower the car for you at the touch of a button. That would be a air (air bag) suspension. They are NOT a performce system, avoid them at all cost's if you even want to maintain the suspension performance you have now. They are for "show" people, not "go" people.
Here's a cut and paste from the Tein web site on what the EDFC control is for.
http://www.tein.com/edfc.html
"EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) makes it possible for the driver to control the damping force by controlling a motor installed in the shock absorber while being seated in the driver's seat. Since the damping force can be manually controlled with ease to meet different situations, the driver can enjoy variations in the suspension setting."
As far as, "are the Tein kit's the right choice"? I'm inclinced to say I don't think you can go wrong. Now you have 2 choice's (I don't say 3 cause I cannot except the basic tein's lack of dampener adjustability). The CS Tein's use spring rates almost identical to stock, but they have 16 way adjustablity. That moves us to the Flex system. In addition to being able to use the EDFC system on the Flex coilovers, they also use much stiffer springs than the CS coilovers. This will mean that the valving they use will also be stiffer than the CS valving. But, their are several owner comment's on the flex coilovers being able to ride very nicely when the dampener's are turned softer. How much control the do to the springs is however, highly suspect IMO.
Food for thought, one could order the CS coilovers with springs that are stiffer, maybe halfway between them and the Flex spring rates. Now, that's what I heard, one should really call tein and make sure. And this is assuming that the CS dampener's 16 level's of adjustments would cover stiffer springs like that.
BTW, tein's web site does not say, when giving a product description of the CS system, that you can ever add the EDFC system to the CS dampeners.
http://www.tein.com/csdamp.html
If you have any more question's, feel free to ask.
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2
08/28/03 01:47 PM
Can the EDFC adjust the ride height? At my new school (Seton Hall University) they have speedbumps in the parking lot and my G35c's front end hits them everytime becasue they are really high. I am looking into some good suspension that I can ride lower for increased performance but change them to higher with the push of a buton when going over these bumps. Is there anyone that can give me info? Are the Tein kits the correct choice? I want the best!
__________________________________________________ _
Oh man, those are some mountain high speed bumps ehh? Well, their aren't any coilover systems out that will raise or lower the car for you at the touch of a button. That would be a air (air bag) suspension. They are NOT a performce system, avoid them at all cost's if you even want to maintain the suspension performance you have now. They are for "show" people, not "go" people.
Here's a cut and paste from the Tein web site on what the EDFC control is for.
http://www.tein.com/edfc.html
"EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) makes it possible for the driver to control the damping force by controlling a motor installed in the shock absorber while being seated in the driver's seat. Since the damping force can be manually controlled with ease to meet different situations, the driver can enjoy variations in the suspension setting."
As far as, "are the Tein kit's the right choice"? I'm inclinced to say I don't think you can go wrong. Now you have 2 choice's (I don't say 3 cause I cannot except the basic tein's lack of dampener adjustability). The CS Tein's use spring rates almost identical to stock, but they have 16 way adjustablity. That moves us to the Flex system. In addition to being able to use the EDFC system on the Flex coilovers, they also use much stiffer springs than the CS coilovers. This will mean that the valving they use will also be stiffer than the CS valving. But, their are several owner comment's on the flex coilovers being able to ride very nicely when the dampener's are turned softer. How much control the do to the springs is however, highly suspect IMO.
Food for thought, one could order the CS coilovers with springs that are stiffer, maybe halfway between them and the Flex spring rates. Now, that's what I heard, one should really call tein and make sure. And this is assuming that the CS dampener's 16 level's of adjustments would cover stiffer springs like that.
BTW, tein's web site does not say, when giving a product description of the CS system, that you can ever add the EDFC system to the CS dampeners.
http://www.tein.com/csdamp.html
If you have any more question's, feel free to ask.
Ivry 6mt sed
Crawford Pleneum
Injen CAI
22" resonator
Cusco sway bars
350Z springs&struts
Enkei RPM2



