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What's the best (and cost-effective) filler to use for hiding swirls/light scratches?

I don't have the time/money to do paint correction at the moment, but I'd like the car looking the best it can until the spring.
There aren't a ton of good filling products that really work. If you pull the car in direct sunlight or florescent lighting, you'll be able to still see swirls and imperfections. The better filling glazes are the heavy oil based ones, but the problem is sealants won't bond well to them so you have to top it with a carnauba wax, giving you only a month or so of protection.

I typically recommend going with a polymer based glaze, something like Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze and topping it with a good sealant like Blackfire Wet Diamond. Will it hide a lot? No, but the gloss and depth will be outstanding until you have time to correct the paint properly.

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Are foam applicator pads safe to use on cars? Like as opposed to using a microfiber to apply wax or sealant?

They make it ALOT easier to apply and I end up using less.
They are safe, but the key is using them on a clean surface. If you use any product over a dirty surface than you can add swirls and scratches. Clearly if you drop it, trash it.

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I am confused on what the best polishing products are for my OB G35. I have a fair amount of swirls/holograms from washing/cleaning and and also have a few surface scratches that I need to remove as well.

I read through most of this thread and after reading some of the early posts, I was ready to order the PC along with the Menzerna line of polishes, specifically SIP with PO106FF, as these seemed to be excellent products. After reading further with more recent threads, you seem to recommend the Mequiars products (M105/M205 combo). Now I am confused.

Is the M105/M205 combo really better than the Menzerna products or are they just easier to use (for beginners)? Is there one reason to lean toward one product line vs the other? Does the more powerful PC contribute to your shift in recommendations? I am really looking for your recommendation on the best product, regardless of easy of use or cost as I want to get the best looking, defect free finish I can get.

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For PC users, the Meguiar's polishes are very easy to use to get good results. The PC doesn't have nearly the same amount of power compared to a Flex buffer or a rotary buffer, which Menzerna polishes are made for. Menzerna polishes are diminishing abrasive polishes, which need to be worked in properly to be fully broken down to reveal an imperfection free surface. This can be done pretty easily with a Flex or rotary, but can be difficult with a PC (not impossible though). Meguiar's M105/M205 polishes are non-diminishing abrasives so as you apply more speed and pressure, you cut and correct more, then as you let off the pressure you are finishing. It's easier for first time PC users to get good results this way which explains the shift in recommendations.

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Here is a couple of shots of a 2010 Toyota Sequoia Black on Black. The truck only had 3600 miles but from poor washing and drying the finish was toast in no time flat. I used a PC 7424 with Orange LC pads and the Menzerna 106ff and got very good results with just one pass. I have never used the Megs 105/205 for Polish so I cant say to much on that. Menzerna has always been Polish of choice. I topped the Truck with BFWD and Nattys Red after that. Turned out not to shabby. One shot is a 50/50 of passenger door and the other shot is same door complete. I really like the reflection of my ride sitting out in the background! That last shot was before the Blackfire! Have fun with the black cars! Mike
Looks good, keep up the great work!

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Okay, so I ordered the 105/205 combo from Detailed Image. Received it last week, but the weather was bad so I didn't get a chance to use it. Today was my first chance to buff out some nasty scuffs and rid my black G of those nasty swirls. So after a complete wash (as instructed by DI), I got out my Porter Cable, put on an orange pad, and started buffing out some of the scuffs with 105. I worked wonderfully... scuffs all gone YEA! Then I put on a black pad with the 205 and went over the same spot to eliminate minor swirls. Looked great... until I moved the car in the sun. YIKES! In the sunlight I saw millions of small swirls from where I had buffed out the scuffs. I thought maybe I didn't buff long enough with the 205, so I went over it again. And I went over a place where there were only old cleaning swirls... Same thing! Millions of hairline swirls.

What did I screw up and how do I fix it? Is it fixable?
From what you described, it sounds like the black pad isn't aggressive enough to remove the marring the M105 / orange pad left behind. I'd suggest using a white polishing pad with the M205 and see if that cleans things up. If that still doesn't do the trick, then you may want to use the M105 again with less pressure to help lighten the swirls, then go over it with the M205 on white pads. It's just a matter of finding the right pad / pressure / speed combo to get the desired results. To save yourself this aggravation in the future, you want to make sure when you polish, you have a light source on the panel your polishing that reveals these imperfections. If you had that, you could have adjusted your technique / pads on the first panel before doing the entire car and being disappointed. A good investment would be either of the Brinkmann hand held lights.

Hope that helps... keep us posted on if you are able to correct the swirls.

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sorry if this is OT.. but anyone know how long do you have to wait before you can clear bra a car with new paint job?

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You should wait for the paint to fully cure which can be between 30 days - 120 days depending on the paint used and the drying techniques. Call the shop that did the work for a more accurate time frame since they will know best.
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ive heard lots of bad things about it. when i apply it to the dash and plastic pieces i like the shine... but i heard it makes them turn white and crack ??? is this true ? any alternatives ??
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Alright awesome! Thanks for the info!
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ive heard lots of bad things about it. when i apply it to the dash and plastic pieces i like the shine... but i heard it makes them turn white and crack ??? is this true ? any alternatives ??
This is more of the old school AA that was silicone based. Since then, they've switched to a water based product so it's not as back, but I'd recommend going for something other than AA, specifically something with some UV protection. For a cleaner and UV protectant in one, Optimum Protectant Plus is a great option to go with. If the dash is clean or you use a separate cleaner and just want a UV protection, 303 Aerospace Protectant is a great option as well.
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Im sorry if this question has been asked before but i've tried searching for reviews online and what not, but how well do the meguiars leather wipes work on g35's leather interior? I have tan interior and i want to keep it looking nice, i bought the meguiars wipes but i have yet to use them, is there any negative reviews on them in regards to using them on g35 tan leather?
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Im sorry if this question has been asked before but i've tried searching for reviews online and what not, but how well do the meguiars leather wipes work on g35's leather interior? I have tan interior and i want to keep it looking nice, i bought the meguiars wipes but i have yet to use them, is there any negative reviews on them in regards to using them on g35 tan leather?
I personally haven't used the Meg's wipes so I cannot comment directly on how good or bad they are. What I'd recommend though is keeping another towel handy so you can wipe off any potential excess product and work the product into the leather. Most of the time, keeping a microfiber towel on hand to wipe down your leather and dash can keep the interior clean enough until you're ready for a legit cleaning. Keep us posted on what you think of the wipes if you end up using them.
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im taking my car to get detailed this weekend and get the leather interior cleaned and conditioned, after that i figure i'll just use the wipes and a micro fiber towel to clean up the interior between details. Gonna get the car washed, waxed, clay bar, and polish, excited to see the results
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I recieve my new PC, polishes and pads this week from DI. I have started polishing and I am really happy with the results so far. I am realizing how soft the infiniti paint is and how visible scratches are on black paint once you put it under proper lighting.

One issue I am having is when I remove/buff the polish after cutting/finishing down, the microfiber towels I am using to remove the polish are actually putting fine scratches back onto the work surface that I just spend several minutes trying to correct. Is there any tips or tricks on trying to avoid this? I am amazed at how easily the black paint on my G35 scratches.

I am using microfiber towels I bought from DI that a couple of years old. Is there a way to tell when the towels have met their service life?
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im taking my car to get detailed this weekend and get the leather interior cleaned and conditioned, after that i figure i'll just use the wipes and a micro fiber towel to clean up the interior between details. Gonna get the car washed, waxed, clay bar, and polish, excited to see the results
Sounds good, keep us posted on how everything turns out!

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I recieve my new PC, polishes and pads this week from DI. I have started polishing and I am really happy with the results so far. I am realizing how soft the infiniti paint is and how visible scratches are on black paint once you put it under proper lighting.

One issue I am having is when I remove/buff the polish after cutting/finishing down, the microfiber towels I am using to remove the polish are actually putting fine scratches back onto the work surface that I just spend several minutes trying to correct. Is there any tips or tricks on trying to avoid this? I am amazed at how easily the black paint on my G35 scratches.

I am using microfiber towels I bought from DI that a couple of years old. Is there a way to tell when the towels have met their service life?
Couple of theories... the towels may not be "paint safe" any more if they are a couple of years old and there is some contamination stuck in them adding swirls / marring, or perhaps from the washing, the ends of the microfiber are starting to pill which can create some ends that are harder. I'd advise demoting those towels to interior work, wheels and tires, door jambs or engine bay duties if they are still effective and invest in some new towels just for your paint.

Another thing that may be happening is right when you are done polishing your paint, it typically is still hot from the buffer working the paint. If you wipe a surface that is hot, it is more likely to add swirls compared to a cool to the touch surface. Perhaps you could do a few more panels, then go back and wipe down the first panel and continue on in that fashion. My guess is since the towels are that old though that you just need to invest in some new paint safe towels.

Hope that helps, keep us posted if that resolves your issue.
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I recieve my new PC, polishes and pads this week from DI. I have started polishing and I am really happy with the results so far. I am realizing how soft the infiniti paint is and how visible scratches are on black paint once you put it under proper lighting.

One issue I am having is when I remove/buff the polish after cutting/finishing down, the microfiber towels I am using to remove the polish are actually putting fine scratches back onto the work surface that I just spend several minutes trying to correct. Is there any tips or tricks on trying to avoid this? I am amazed at how easily the black paint on my G35 scratches.

I am using microfiber towels I bought from DI that a couple of years old. Is there a way to tell when the towels have met their service life?
Let me know if you find a solution that will avoid putting swirl marks back in. I have an 08 sedan sport with the same soft black paint problem. Thanks.
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Let me know if you find a solution that will avoid putting swirl marks back in. I have an 08 sedan sport with the same soft black paint problem. Thanks.
Last night I tried a bunch of different towels I have and it was hit or miss on whether it would mark the paint or not. Even depended on which portion of the towel I used as I had them folded in quarters.

I am even thinking when I dry my car after washing - My waffle weave towels seem less soft than the smaller 16"x16" plush towels. I hate to go through all this work to correct the paint only to look like crap again in 6 months.
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Last night I tried a bunch of different towels I have and it was hit or miss on whether it would mark the paint or not. Even depended on which portion of the towel I used as I had them folded in quarters.

I am even thinking when I dry my car after washing - My waffle weave towels seem less soft than the smaller 16"x16" plush towels. I hate to go through all this work to correct the paint only to look like crap again in 6 months.
If your towels are older and are in need of a "reviving" you can try to boil them. This helps reopen the fibers in microfiber and also helps release contamination / old product / etc. If they still mar the paint after that then I'd recommend demoting them to not-paint-safe towels and investing in some new towels just for your paint. It's very important when dealing with soft JB paint to know how to properly care for microfiber and keep them properly sorted and organized.
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I'm sure its been asked, but what is the preferred method to restore the black plastic exterior trim?

I'm gonna give my daily driver a good bath both outside and in this weekend and I wanna make it look as new as possible
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I'm gonna give my daily driver a good bath both outside and in this weekend and I wanna make it look as new as possible
I like using something like Klasse All In One to polish and protect it. Usually it does a good job removing oxidation and leaves it looking pretty new.
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