Cause for the dreaded P0011/P0021 codes that everyone is curious about
#301
I would be very wary of that dealership if they will not release the (quantitative) results of the test that you hired them to do for you. I don't know how things work over in Korea, but that's just straight up crazy! I am assuming this is a Nissan dealership, right? Is there another one you can go to that might be more reasonable?
As far as undertaking the gasket job yourself, I strongly suggest you read carefully through the FSM (http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/G35/Sedan/2008/) and see all that is required to perform the procedure BEFORE you jump into it. I hate to unduly discourage you away from doing your own work here, as I always admire someone with that inclination, but it really is a formidable job, with lots and lots of steps involved. It basically tears the entire front of the engine apart, including all accessory systems that are in the way.
It is not difficult to do the oil pressure test yourself. I made a DIY thread here with some pointers that might help: https://g35driver.com/forums/v36-diy...-pressure.html Remember to carefully consider oil temperature and rpm's when checking oil pressure or will get incorrect/misleading results.
good luck!
As far as undertaking the gasket job yourself, I strongly suggest you read carefully through the FSM (http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/G35/Sedan/2008/) and see all that is required to perform the procedure BEFORE you jump into it. I hate to unduly discourage you away from doing your own work here, as I always admire someone with that inclination, but it really is a formidable job, with lots and lots of steps involved. It basically tears the entire front of the engine apart, including all accessory systems that are in the way.
It is not difficult to do the oil pressure test yourself. I made a DIY thread here with some pointers that might help: https://g35driver.com/forums/v36-diy...-pressure.html Remember to carefully consider oil temperature and rpm's when checking oil pressure or will get incorrect/misleading results.
good luck!
#302
Thx a lot for the advice! Can i ask u just one more question? Is there any left-hand bolt in the process of tearing down the timing cover? Cuz the manual tells me nothing about bolt specs except factory torque. Since its my first time working on the engine, im reading the manual and this thread over and over again to make sure i dont make any stupid mistake.
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#303
Hey Alfa,
I am having the same exact tractor noise. It has been doing it for about a year now. I had my oil pressure tested several times and it was fine. One shop told me it was timing chain noise and another told me that it was a worn camshaft sprocket. I am not sure what to believe. It sucks because either one will be a very costly repair.
Did you ever get someone to diagnose your problem?
I do not have any engine codes but I am still getting this noise.
I am having the same exact tractor noise. It has been doing it for about a year now. I had my oil pressure tested several times and it was fine. One shop told me it was timing chain noise and another told me that it was a worn camshaft sprocket. I am not sure what to believe. It sucks because either one will be a very costly repair.
Did you ever get someone to diagnose your problem?
I do not have any engine codes but I am still getting this noise.
To accurately diagnose a problem, measures the oil pressure, as described here in the topic
#305
Well finally brought my 2008 G35 back into the dealer for the P0011 code, it's been causing problems for over a year now. Quote was $1,500 labor alone to pull timing cover and inspect everything. Dealer called today to inform me the oil galley gasket is bad, causing the internal oil leak. He also says the sprockets need replacing, another $422 each!! OUCH! Total estimate is $2,600, but don't think I really have a choice as I don't know a local mechanic I can trust to tear my engine apart. Hopefully they will honor the 10% coupon! Not ready to part with my G35 -although the 2015 Q50 loaner is really sweet!! I just wish the manufacture would acknowledge sub-par gasket design or something and kick in part of the repair cost.
#306
Well finally brought my 2008 G35 back into the dealer for the P0011 code, it's been causing problems for over a year now. Quote was $1,500 labor alone to pull timing cover and inspect everything. Dealer called today to inform me the oil galley gasket is bad, causing the internal oil leak. He also says the sprockets need replacing, another $422 each!! OUCH! Total estimate is $2,600, but don't think I really have a choice as I don't know a local mechanic I can trust to tear my engine apart. Hopefully they will honor the 10% coupon! Not ready to part with my G35 -although the 2015 Q50 loaner is really sweet!! I just wish the manufacture would acknowledge sub-par gasket design or something and kick in part of the repair cost.
#307
That's sucks that it's so expensive, but I think you're actually fortunate that there isn't even more damage than that, given the fact that you continued to drive the car with low oil pressure for an addition 1-1/2 years! You quite possibly could have been able to avoid the sprocket replacements if you had taken care of it when it first came up back in 2014.
#308
Question about "warm" oil pressure reading
So I installed the oil pressure sensor that vqsmile provided a GREAT write up for (thanks for that). After reading some posts I still can't draw a conclusion on whether I'm actually encountering the problem of low oil pressure. At 2k RPM, I'm reading about 43 psi - but at idle (~650), I'm getting around 9 psi. I would mention that this is at fully warmed up (as opposed to estimating 173 degree) temps, and I'm wondering if that would be considered normal once the car reaches full running temps - or if it;s just a matter of time before it throws an error code.
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
#309
So I installed the oil pressure sensor that vqsmile provided a GREAT write up for (thanks for that). After reading some posts I still can't draw a conclusion on whether I'm actually encountering the problem of low oil pressure. At 2k RPM, I'm reading about 43 psi - but at idle (~650), I'm getting around 9 psi. I would mention that this is at fully warmed up (as opposed to estimating 173 degree) temps, and I'm wondering if that would be considered normal once the car reaches full running temps - or if it;s just a matter of time before it throws an error code.
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
Attachment 175116
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
Attachment 175116
Well, that does sound a bit low. Lots of people have noted that their car had significantly more than 14 psi at idle when fully warmed up, but every car is a bit different so I can't say that it is definitely your gaskets. Before you leap into a tear-down, you might want to first verify the gauge, the oil (age,viscosity,etc.), and the oil filter. At least you can keep an eye on it to see if it progresses at all.
#310
So I installed the oil pressure sensor that vqsmile provided a GREAT write up for (thanks for that). After reading some posts I still can't draw a conclusion on whether I'm actually encountering the problem of low oil pressure. At 2k RPM, I'm reading about 43 psi - but at idle (~650), I'm getting around 9 psi. I would mention that this is at fully warmed up (as opposed to estimating 173 degree) temps, and I'm wondering if that would be considered normal once the car reaches full running temps - or if it;s just a matter of time before it throws an error code.
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
Attachment 175116
I should add that the car has never triggered the engine light, but I'm 111.5k miles currently. It's a 2007 G35 Sport that's been very well maintained and rarely pushed hard. Have owned it since 29k when I bought it as a CPO.
Local dealer (Smith Infiniti) quoted me around $2200 to do the gasket pair swap (along with a new water pump).
BTW I installed the gauge in my glovebox so it would stay out of the way. I attached a pic in case anyone is considering installing one.
Attachment 175116
#311
I think in total, the bill was just shy of $1100 (McGee's in Tampa, FL) but I've been driving it for around 3 months now and it's running like a champ, no oil leaks, no thrown codes, and no issues (minus one incident where my tranny slipped a gear and went into limp mode, but I believe a particularly rainy Florida evening + hours of driving + no underbelly shroud + wet shift solenoid was to blame for that, since I let it dry off and cleared the codes the next morning and it hasn't come back.)
So if we've learned anything, it seems to be that low oil pressure is definitely the cause of most of the issues in this thread, even though those particular oil gallery gaskets mentioned are not on every model. If you have a gen 1 and are having any of these issues mentioned, do yourself a favor and have the oil pressure checked, and prepare to put in the work and/or money to restore your car back to its former glory. Hopefully this long ordeal helps someone out in the future!
#312
Started with p0345 then p0021 due to a bad replacement sensor
Replaced bank 2 camshaft position sensor after stalling out no CEL at first then tripped p0345.
Then p0021 came on after stepping on gas, checking and changing oil, then replacing VVT solenoids resulted in no change.
Wound up being a bad new sensor, replaced with another new sensor and was back in the game, the first sensor must have been dropped is what I was told.
Then p0021 came on after stepping on gas, checking and changing oil, then replacing VVT solenoids resulted in no change.
Wound up being a bad new sensor, replaced with another new sensor and was back in the game, the first sensor must have been dropped is what I was told.
#313
#314
It looks i'm going to bite the bullet and fix this issue. There are reputable Infiniti/Nissan shops in SoCal, and I'd rather go to people I trust than the dealership. With the exception of the loaner and getting ripped off, is there an advantage of going to a dealership?
#315
Needing help
I have seen numerous amounts of these cars come in with the dreaded P0011/P0021 intake timing control codes and I have read numerous posts of how nobody knows the answer. I have repaired a bunch of these and it is indeed an oil pressure issue and not a sensor problem. When the front timing cover is removed you will see 2 caps held to the rear timing cover with phillips head screws. The paper gasket gets blown out and it blows oil right into the timing cover and causes pressure drop to the intake timing solenoids. There is an updated gasket that has metal inside the gasket to keep it from blowing apart like the paper gasket seen in images. This is why the codes keep coming back no matter what oil flushes and sensors are replaced. Hope this helps you guys.