BBK Mount Brackets Fabricated

Old Jul 24, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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BBK Mount Brackets Fabricated

Hey i live in the atlanta area.. I have a set of 4 evo calipers rotors and everything.. was looking for someone with fabrication experience to design a bracket for these brakes to bolt up to my 05 coupe.. Im pretty sure if you made the bracket people would buy these evo brakes all day long from the mitsu family.. stock g35 bbk's are just stupidly priced and honestly if a bracket was made it would lower demand for them and make a few more parts affordable.. I doubt if riversides brackets will work and I dont want to pay 800 for pretty simple looking brackets.. please email if you want to help..

I am willing to drive within a 150 mile radius of atlanta.. maybe a little more just to get them made... please email me jay_henton@yahoo.com if you are interetest in doing this for me...

P.S. If someone is already in the process of getting these made then let me know so that way i can just order a set from you.... Someone needs to get this done and save people some money on quality upgrades..
 
Old Jul 24, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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What are the rotor dimensions and offsets? What are the caliper specs? Why do you think these calipers from another car would be appropiate for a G35?
Which rotors you plan on using? How do you know they will fit onto the G35 w/o problems?
 
Old Jul 24, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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The brake balance on a G and EVO are completely different. You will lose braking performance and go through pads/rotors like no other.

1. the G is heavier
2. The weight distro of an EVO is about 60/40; the G is about 54/46.
 
Old Jul 24, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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That figures

Says the man selling $800 brackets.

I'm inclined to think that brake calipers for a car are not selected based on those specifics and the car inherently has what it needs. Sure the bias on an evo is going to be different but the G's front/rear proportional valving(what dictates fluid to the front and rear based on the cars weight distribution), ABS, VDC and the same mastercylinder and plumbing will work just as well with any 4 pot brembo calper costing 1/2 what ours do. Sure you'll need to look at the rears at the same time for absolute perfect bias, although many run brembo front and non brembo rears succesfully.

As long as hydraulic fluid is regulated the same in the new caliper and it is made to fit correctly it will in fact work just fine. There's no magic in the caliper and no real difference between the plumbing in the caliper in any aftermarket brand barring piston size. They all push fluid to pistons which push pads to contact the rotor to stop the car. This is why an OEM 2 piston caliper can be swapped with a brembo 4 piston caliper without smoke , mirrors and a magician doing the install and work exactly the way it was supposed to. Was the caliper "specially biased" for the G? Hell no, it's a chunk of aluminum with fluid passages, pistons and seals. All Items to do what you speak of are ALREADY ON THE CAR.

I also have to wonder.........Based on what you said would be issues above.......... the G37 akebono's for which you sell to fit earlier sedans WITH BRACKETS TO MAKE THEM FIT AS THEY WERE NEVER DESIGNED FOR THE CAR would never work becase the earlier G's bigger, longer car as weight & bias is COMPLETELY different.

Your post above would also lead one to believe that.........all earlier sedans running them will as you put it .......wear through pads like crazy as a result?!?

plugsnet - Figure out exactly the dimensions for the brackets you need and get it into a cad, adobe or even just a jpeg and then post an add at the link below which I use all the time for amp chassis' & parts fabrication. You'll have a ton of people ready to make it for you with prices listed.

And count me in, I'll gladly pick up a pair of 1/2 price brembo's and buy a set of brackets.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...244#post235244
 

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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These threads from Zilvia have tons of good info:

Check these links for info:
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...ghlight=brembo
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...ghlight=brembo
 
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Im going to have to agree. Mike why are these brackets so much money...i mean 800 for cnc'd metal? I can understand paying 400 for the pair, 800 is just downright ludacris, in fact its what turned me off from buying the g37 bbk. i have the money i just cant justify spending that amount for 2 brackets
 
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When brackets started to come out for the 300ZX chassis to fit 350Z-track brembo rotors under Z32 calipers the brackets at most cost $200 and eventually went down to $125 I think to stay competive with ebay.

IMO anything more than $200 for brackets only to fit brakes on a car is insane.
 

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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Well there ya go

Originally Posted by idrive_MD
These threads from Zilvia have tons of good info:

Check these links for info:
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...ghlight=brembo
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t...ghlight=brembo

Well there ya go

1. Proof that Evo & STI Brembos are identical part number calipers on two completely different cars at different weights and bias.

2. Proof that a simple bracket can be CNC machined to mount them on differet cars for $150 a pair.


Once a steelership always a steelership.
 
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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EVO info

Evo info for 03 - 06' is as follows: (also bolts directly on to Sti, 626 and RX7)

OEM # 75930. Casting # 20.7157.01 20.7136.01.

THE STOCK THICKNESS OF THE OEM ROTORS IS 32MM FRONT 22MM REAR.

ROTOR DIAMETER FRONT 320mm REAR 300mm

PISTON SIZE FRONT 40mm & 46mm / REAR 40mm

THE MEASUREMENT CENTER TO CENTER OF THE MOUNTING HOLES IS FRONT 6 ¼” REAR 5 ½”

There are a dozen complete sets going for $300 - $700 in ebay right now. Makes me sick.
 

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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interesting thread
 
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Incorrect.

STI and EVOs have different brake setups. I am a former STI owner.

I had a 2006, so 06 specs are the ones I am most familiar with. Although improbable, it is possible that other year GDB STIs have different brake sizes.

2004-2007 STI brake specs:
Front: 12.7x1.2in vented disc,
Rear: 12.3x0.8in vented disc,

2003-2006 EVO brake specs:
Front: 12.7 in vented disc,
Rear: 12.0 in vented disc,

Please tell me those numbers are identical, because it is common information.

The brake setups CLEARLY not the same.

More specifically, STI weight distro is often quoted at 59/41 while the EVO is often quoted 61/39.

Yes, the fronts are the same size. The rears, obviously are not. That is for balancing purposes.

Re: G35/G37 braking retrofit. All G's are 53/47 or 54/46.



Re: Bracket pricing. You'll be very unhappy if your bracket breaks. If you are unhappy with our pricing on our brackets, then please feel free to purchase the others. As with all of the other products we sell, it is priced agressively.

Would you purchase a homemade intake for your vehicle? You could make your own for 30 dollars. However, everyone pays for tried and proven equipment, and our bracket is proven to work; we back it's quality.
 

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Riverside Infiniti Bracket:



Other Guy's Bracket:



 
Old Jul 26, 2008 | 04:29 AM
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Why do you keep talking "balancing" and quoting vehicle weight because it has not one damn thing to do with a caliper. The vehicle in question in valved and proportioned to handle that NOT the freaking caliper......can we put that to bed on your next rant please?

The second link posted above clearly states that part numbers on the EVO AND STI as being identical for certain years. Did I write it NO, do I believe it YES.

Why didn't you answer my question about akenbono's in reference to your line about any other brembo caliper wearing through pads on first gen sedans like crazy? Are you saying that bolting akebono's on an earlier sedan is sooooooooooo much better than trying to retrofit an EVO caliper because you happen to sell them? Break the difference down for me? A different car is a different car using your logic (see more blah blah blah about front & rear weight in your post x 2) so why then would you be pimping akebono's as a no problem option for a completely different car ?

Then you show supposed flimsy brackets(they are at least as heavy duty as the ears on the brembo caliper so why are they flimsy?) of adapting evo calipers after you posted above that it's not smart to do it....um..........which is it? Because it looks to me as if you are saying both while only using the pics to bash someones brackets.


"As with all of the other products we sell, it is priced agressively."........$800 for brackets is.......um agressive? ABSURD is more like it.


After researching other brands(AP, Nex, Endless, Stoptech) they ALL make a standard caliper that is fitted to MULTIPLE platforms and the only difference in the package is rotor size x width, Pad depth and the BRACKETS to fit the application. The caliper is in fact the same 4,6 or 8 pot caliper.

But using your logic.........this can't be done because of.......why exactly again?
 

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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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just want to chime in that the calipers may be the same from one vehicle to the next, but the piston is sized differently depending on the application.

i'm not talking 4 piston or 6 piston, I'm talking about the actual size of the piston, 28, 30, 34 mm, etc, etc

this is specific to Stoptech since those are the one I researched before purchasing.
 
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Originally Posted by my05g35sedan
Why do you keep talking "balancing" and quoting vehicle weight because it has not one damn thing to do with a caliper. The vehicle in question in valved and proportioned to handle that NOT the freaking caliper......can we put that to bed on your next rant please?

The second link posted above clearly states that part numbers on the EVO AND STI as being identical for certain years. Did I write it NO, do I believe it YES.

Why didn't you answer my question about akenbono's in reference to your line about any other brembo caliper wearing through pads on first gen sedans like crazy? Are you saying that bolting akebono's on an earlier sedan is sooooooooooo much better than trying to retrofit an EVO caliper because you happen to sell them? Break the difference down for me? A different car is a different car using your logic (see more blah blah blah about front & rear weight in your post x 2) so why then would you be pimping akebono's as a no problem option for a completely different car ?

Then you show supposed flimsy brackets(they are at least as heavy duty as the ears on the brembo caliper so why are they flimsy?) of adapting evo calipers after you posted above that it's not smart to do it....um..........which is it? Because it looks to me as if you are saying both while only using the pics to bash someones brackets.


"As with all of the other products we sell, it is priced agressively."........$800 for brackets is.......um agressive? ABSURD is more like it.


After researching other brands(AP, Nex, Endless, Stoptech) they ALL make a standard caliper that is fitted to MULTIPLE platforms and the only difference in the package is rotor size x width, Pad depth and the BRACKETS to fit the application. The caliper is in fact the same 4,6 or 8 pot caliper.

But using your logic.........this can't be done because of.......why exactly again?
You really have no idea what you are talking about do you?
 

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