G35 and handling
#1
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G35 and handling
So I am a n00b when it comes to suspension stuff for cars, so I wanted to ask you guys
My buddy has a new 370z and I get to drive it quite often. I absolutely love it. It feels a lot faster than our cars, but mostly it handles sooo much better.
The whole car feels a lot more stiff in a turn with almost no body roll when comparing it to our cars. In his car I feel a lot safer going at higher speeds through turns I would normal be scared in mine, and I am not even that used to his car.
My question is can anything be done to make our cars handle a lot better/feel more stiff? I got sway bars, which made it better, but it's no where near where I want it to be.
Maybe coilovers and lowering the car? Does that actually help that much with handling?
I hate driving the G after his car, it feels so fat haha
My buddy has a new 370z and I get to drive it quite often. I absolutely love it. It feels a lot faster than our cars, but mostly it handles sooo much better.
The whole car feels a lot more stiff in a turn with almost no body roll when comparing it to our cars. In his car I feel a lot safer going at higher speeds through turns I would normal be scared in mine, and I am not even that used to his car.
My question is can anything be done to make our cars handle a lot better/feel more stiff? I got sway bars, which made it better, but it's no where near where I want it to be.
Maybe coilovers and lowering the car? Does that actually help that much with handling?
I hate driving the G after his car, it feels so fat haha
#2
the z weighs a couple hundred pounds less, and that can be hard to take off, but coilovers will definately help the handling.. usually significantly
the other thing to consider are the wheels/tires
the 370's setup is much more aggressive than the g's (assuming you havent changed them yet).. you should swap wheels with your buddy for a day if he will let you and see how the g compares then
the other thing to consider are the wheels/tires
the 370's setup is much more aggressive than the g's (assuming you havent changed them yet).. you should swap wheels with your buddy for a day if he will let you and see how the g compares then
#3
The 370z's tires aren't more aggressive, they're just wider.
It's a small part of the picture though. What you need is a good set of coilovers. What you said about the 370z compared to your G35 is exactly how it was for me when I installed my set.
The stock suspension is pretty weak, but its understandable as they had to build the car for the people you bought them from: older men and menopausal women.
It's a small part of the picture though. What you need is a good set of coilovers. What you said about the 370z compared to your G35 is exactly how it was for me when I installed my set.
The stock suspension is pretty weak, but its understandable as they had to build the car for the people you bought them from: older men and menopausal women.
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#7
First off, the 370 is smaller and lighter than the G. It's got a much stiffer chassis, and a more aggressive suspension, making it much more agile than a G.
To get something close to that without stripping out your interior, a good step would be to stiffen the chassis with tie bars, cross brace, strut bars, etc... a cage would be nice, but I think it's a little excessive.
For suspension, look for a good spring rate. Nothing too soft, but you don't want something too stiff either (although I don't think too many springs are that stiff depending on the struts you are running). As for struts, look for something with a low bound and high rebound. Skip the cheap coilovers as the more affordable ones are just stiff, and you'll adjust both bound and rebound the same when you turn that ****, if you even get any real range of adjustment from them. The decent coilovers start at about 2k a set.
And like some have already stated, great tires are a must.
To get something close to that without stripping out your interior, a good step would be to stiffen the chassis with tie bars, cross brace, strut bars, etc... a cage would be nice, but I think it's a little excessive.
For suspension, look for a good spring rate. Nothing too soft, but you don't want something too stiff either (although I don't think too many springs are that stiff depending on the struts you are running). As for struts, look for something with a low bound and high rebound. Skip the cheap coilovers as the more affordable ones are just stiff, and you'll adjust both bound and rebound the same when you turn that ****, if you even get any real range of adjustment from them. The decent coilovers start at about 2k a set.
And like some have already stated, great tires are a must.
Last edited by dofu; 11-02-2011 at 11:18 AM.
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From: Cleveland, OH
Thanks a lot for the responses guys!
Looks like I am going to be shopping for some coilovers when Spring comes around. Any recommendations? I rather see what is good, than get what everyone else usually goes with.
Yeah tires make a huge difference too. For my last set of tires I had Nitto NT05, now I have Hankook Ventus V12 tires, and I hate them when I compare how they felt compared to the Nittos. As soon as I left the driveway after installing them the car felt so much less responsive.
Looks like I am going to be shopping for some coilovers when Spring comes around. Any recommendations? I rather see what is good, than get what everyone else usually goes with.
Yeah tires make a huge difference too. For my last set of tires I had Nitto NT05, now I have Hankook Ventus V12 tires, and I hate them when I compare how they felt compared to the Nittos. As soon as I left the driveway after installing them the car felt so much less responsive.
#10
DO NOT cheap out on coilovers! The ride quality of your car will suffer. I have Bilstein coilovers and love them they ride decent and the car handles well. They are and exellent street setup.
Here is some good info
https://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-...w-updates.html
Here is some good info
https://g35driver.com/forums/brakes-...w-updates.html
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#15
If you're on a budget, front and rear lower tie bars will be the most effective.
If your G can fit it and you can afford it, a lower cross brace is even better.
Strut bars might not seem to do much, but they still tie the chassis down further improving your handling, although a really good front strut bar setup will include fender braces or be a 3-point connecting to your firewall (two things that are practically non-existent for the G).
If your G can fit it and you can afford it, a lower cross brace is even better.
Strut bars might not seem to do much, but they still tie the chassis down further improving your handling, although a really good front strut bar setup will include fender braces or be a 3-point connecting to your firewall (two things that are practically non-existent for the G).