G35 Front Strut Tower brace
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Originally Posted by wa2good
The ARC brace is very nice 'looking", but unfortunately, from an engeniering standpoint it leaves a lot to be dsiired as far as functionality .
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Originally Posted by dklau33
Care to elaborate on this a bit? And can you give a short summary of how the engineering design of the VRT STB allows it to be functional? Not trying to call you out or anyting like that... just want to be educated. Appreciate any info you can give us.
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expensive....
Originally Posted by SixFive
400 bucks for that thing with the max pressure point INCHES above the attachment? ????
How about for 75 bucks you can get a LOWER strut bar from GT spec and do wonders. Independent (we hope) reviews are in a nearby thread under Reviews.Apparently handling and feel are much improved. You can get 3 bars and a 4 point chassis brace as well. 400 bucks is a joke
How about for 75 bucks you can get a LOWER strut bar from GT spec and do wonders. Independent (we hope) reviews are in a nearby thread under Reviews.Apparently handling and feel are much improved. You can get 3 bars and a 4 point chassis brace as well. 400 bucks is a joke
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Originally Posted by xswl0931
I think the point is that the Arc STB doesn't allow for a plenum spacer or aftermarket plenum which are quite popular.
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Originally Posted by xswl0931
I think the point is that the Arc STB doesn't allow for a plenum spacer or aftermarket plenum which are quite popular.
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The front STB on the G35 is a real difficult challenge, we all know that from several different perspectives. Getting it to fit over the plenum, under the hood, attaching it properly etc. If it was as easy as doing the rear, where one can use a stamped piece of metal and quickly install it, it would have been done just as rapidly.
Unfortunately, there are compromises involved with a front STB just as there are with every piece of equipment, and in the case of the STB they are more extreme.
One design extends upwards a few inches, rigidly, to a base point for the bar, which is typically flat. This ties the ST together effectively, but it is complex and involves a lot of welding and expensive material, thus the cost.
The other design utilizes a cleaner looking arc of expensive material, but that "bow" introduces a potential for much greater flex with the leverage that the chassis is going to bring to bear against it. Will it really work as effectively with that curvature. There are no tests so it is speculation either way.
One thing is for certain. Any way that we go an effective front STB adds big returns in handling with the car. And it is going to cost more than a lot of other mods and offer little in the way of profits to somebody that makes them. The volume for sales is low, the materials and fabrication costs too high.
Unfortunately, there are compromises involved with a front STB just as there are with every piece of equipment, and in the case of the STB they are more extreme.
One design extends upwards a few inches, rigidly, to a base point for the bar, which is typically flat. This ties the ST together effectively, but it is complex and involves a lot of welding and expensive material, thus the cost.
The other design utilizes a cleaner looking arc of expensive material, but that "bow" introduces a potential for much greater flex with the leverage that the chassis is going to bring to bear against it. Will it really work as effectively with that curvature. There are no tests so it is speculation either way.
One thing is for certain. Any way that we go an effective front STB adds big returns in handling with the car. And it is going to cost more than a lot of other mods and offer little in the way of profits to somebody that makes them. The volume for sales is low, the materials and fabrication costs too high.
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Originally Posted by wa2good
Unfortunately, it wouldn't make sense to produce these STB's for less than $400. (4130 chromoly and powder coating and hardware add up) Price might go up later, just trying to get it out there.
$400 will be the starting price for it powder coated (gloss black will be the standard color) and with all necessary hardware and instructions. I can do other colors (and chrome) for a "reasonable" additional price.
If interested, email me at wa2good@hotmail.com
Thanks.
$400 will be the starting price for it powder coated (gloss black will be the standard color) and with all necessary hardware and instructions. I can do other colors (and chrome) for a "reasonable" additional price.
If interested, email me at wa2good@hotmail.com
Thanks.
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Without going into any real detail on here about others STB's (I am not a mud slinger) I would like to say that;
dklau33, you're assumptions are correct, and that IS a real consern with THAT brace
xswl0931, you are correct as well on your point about the plenum spacers.
Eagle1, Thanks alot for the great explanation, you hit the nail right on the head.
Like I have said before, Not really any profit to speak of in making these. If anyone would, or could make this STB that was as effective as ours and at a similar price, I would 100% welcome it, hell it would save me A TON of work and trouble, and I would just gladly purchase their. Hahaha. Just trying to help out the "G" community on a much needed modification (a front STB), one that actually WORKS.
dklau33, you're assumptions are correct, and that IS a real consern with THAT brace
xswl0931, you are correct as well on your point about the plenum spacers.
Eagle1, Thanks alot for the great explanation, you hit the nail right on the head.
Like I have said before, Not really any profit to speak of in making these. If anyone would, or could make this STB that was as effective as ours and at a similar price, I would 100% welcome it, hell it would save me A TON of work and trouble, and I would just gladly purchase their. Hahaha. Just trying to help out the "G" community on a much needed modification (a front STB), one that actually WORKS.
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Originally Posted by CarFanatic56
has anyone bought the VRT front strut bar yet?
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