I test drove both before I bought the car and I did not like the 5AT at all not even in manual mode... I say 6MT all the way....

Guys what about Modding wise?? does auto and manual have difference on them?

Other than the tranny itself.... no dif for modding (check some of the user sigs)

For FI with the 5AT, you have to consider a VB upgrade ($1k) which is supposed to be good to about 500 rwhp. Any more than that and a complete racing rebuild is probably in order ($$$).

I don't know the cost of upgraded clutch/flywheel for the MT with FI, but you don't really "need" it; depends on your driving habits...

Get the Stick

6mt

If you like to determine when the car should shift and fully enjoy the complete driving experience, get the stick. The manumatic just gives you a taste of what it is like to really control a car but it is just a taste. There is no substitute for the control a stick gives you. As long as I have two good legs I will never drive an automatic and for real stick affectionados, traffic is no bother as the shifting is so automatic. In fact I don't even use the clutch in stop and go to disengage first. For me traffic is no bother with regards to shifting and I am in traffic every day I commute.

6mt you will regret it if you dont

I almost got automatic...very glad I didn't. In my opinion, this car isn't very fast. (sorry guys, but in stock form, it's not...) but w/ the 6mt, it's still very enjoyable to drive, and I sit in stop & go traffic every single day. Get the stick.

Damn it guys.. more of you are telling me on the MT side >< arghh i guess i have no choice now?? but to learn manual ahh!.. btw wats "VB upgrade"

I disagree. Once you learn manumatic, you have full control of rpms. No, you can't shift from 5th to 1st. If that's the type of control you're talking about! So the auto is safer - harder to blow your engine! (For those of you who really have no clue how manumatic works: you push up, you go up a gear; you push down, then you go down a gear; you do nothing then you WILL STAY in the selected gear, bouncing off the rev limiter if you want to; you double click down, you go down two gears).

It takes weeks/months to learn the manumatic mode (coming from a manual) - you guys are all talking out of your @ss if you haven't actually practiced racing a 5AT in manumatic mode.

It's all a matter of opinion I suppose...

Truplay8: always short and sweet! (makes it hard to argue!)

A "valve body" upgrade - it's main mechanical part of the automatic transmission.

hmmm... how many people regret getting the 6MT?
now.......how many people regret getting the automatic?

that should answer your question right there...

True. You rarely, if ever, hear about anyone regreting getting the 6mt. It's not much fun in traffic but well worth it on the open road. If you enjoy driving and want to be more engaged in the experience, get the 6mt. However, don't just get the 6mt because everyone says so.

Auto Is For Girls, I Dont Understand How People Go Out And Buy Automatic Sports Cars. If You Want Auto Get A Minivan. Sorry If I Sound Rude But Its True.

if it will help a bit, it may be general, i;ve had a few cars in the past, i am now currently doing research on g35x, or rwd.... cant decide, mainly due to suspension and lack there off, and snow....

HOWEVER, in any arena, you will hear the same arguements, doesnt matter if its awd vs rwd, auto vs manual, coupe vs sedan, etc.... alot of it boils down to prefernce, but you can pick out cleanly the posts where EGO is involved, such as post referencing gender is for this or that transmission.


a few things i can add to this is, autos can be built to be more consistent than MT with the VB upgrade which as someone said above, is the Valve Body in an auto trans.

i;ve done that to one of my cars which i autoX locally in DC at fed ex feild and i can honestly say if you go this route, it is def worth it. firms up the shifts due to line pressure, consistency is increased, however one disadv. or advantage (depending on how you look at it) is the higher the pressure, the higher the heat and maybe a need for a transmission cooler. transmission fluid being more a hydraulic than something like oil still breaks down under heat, and 175-195 degrees is usually the operating range for most transmissions in auto, for every 20 degrees above, you half the life. a cooler is an easy fix, such as the B&M which is a plate and fin style as opposed to tube and fin. 50$

manual transmissions DO give you more control, especially in selection of which gear for which driving condition, which can be an advantage. the disadvantage if any....ask anyone into racing hard such as SCCA not just spirited drivers, is that if you arent good at it, you will either learn quick or you will smell burning clutch for some time, until you do learn. especially in traffic. no one is perfect, and all can learn/improve.



something you will have to consider with both, however, is cost. upgrading a manual most times can cost as much as upgrading an automatic. that is IF you price things out, and do research ahead of time. Level Ten in NJ has a few options i believe with VB upgrades and i believe they have a paddle shift, not sure if thats adaptable to this car, but its commonly found on higher end cars. might be an option




but like others have said, its gonna boil down to what you use the car for really. sometimes you may be able to find something such as a transline interceptor for electronically shifting transmission which is a piggy back module that firms shifts and line pressure.

but do more reasearch and find out whats best for yourself. dont fall into the ego hype. some of the fastest cars around happen to be autos, sometimes you can have the best of both worlds in reference to the applications you plan on using the car, honestly.


as for myself, i personally would choose auto, but then again being 6'1, 307lb, ex D-1 college football player and currently training in professional wrestling, i doubt i will have TOO much room to manuever a size 15 foot. and i'm the smallest of the fam.... those are my own personal reasons from the test drives.