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Anyone switch the shift direction for manual mode (auto tranny)

Old Oct 17, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Anyone switch the shift direction for manual mode (auto tranny)

I did a search and came up with nada.

It pains me that moving the shifter forward upshifts. It feels like it should be a downshift?

Has anyone attempted to switch dirction of up and down.

I'd rather have manual but it is the wife's car.

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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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It bothered me at first as it seemed un-natural to push forward to shift up. I think BMW is one of the only ones that you pull back to up-shift?

I decided to just get used to it rather than try to convert it. I don't think I ever read any posts about someone actually doing it.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordgee
It bothered me at first as it seemed un-natural to push forward to shift up. I think BMW is one of the only ones that you pull back to up-shift?

I decided to just get used to it rather than try to convert it. I don't think I ever read any posts about someone actually doing it.
It kills me...so goes against my inner being.

Seems like a possible easy mod but then again...

Anyone? Bueler?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ag02M5
I did a search and came up with nada.

It pains me that moving the shifter forward upshifts. It feels like it should be a downshift?

Has anyone attempted to switch dirction of up and down.

I'd rather have manual but it is the wife's car.

Thanks.

Ryan
Personally, i hate the fact that BMW's manual mode has you pull the shifter back to go up in gear. I drove an 02 SMG M3 and redlined it cuz i'm so used to pushing up to shift in my car. I pushed up on the M3 and it did nothing, i was like... wtf??

I love pushing forward to upshift. Once you get used to it, it's perfect, could be a little faster shifts tho.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gdup35sedan
Personally, i hate the fact that BMW's manual mode has you pull the shifter back to go up in gear. I drove an 02 SMG M3 and redlined it cuz i'm so used to pushing up to shift in my car. I pushed up on the M3 and it did nothing, i was like... wtf??

I love pushing forward to upshift. Once you get used to it, it's perfect, could be a little faster shifts tho.
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lol, why didn't you use the paddles?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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it's drive by wire - just cut and splice, right?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gdup35sedan
Personally, i hate the fact that BMW's manual mode has you pull the shifter back to go up in gear. I drove an 02 SMG M3 and redlined it cuz i'm so used to pushing up to shift in my car. I pushed up on the M3 and it did nothing, i was like... wtf??

I love pushing forward to upshift.
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When you shift and accelerate, you get thrown back in your seat. It seems un-natural to have to reach and push forward while your body is moving back, in order to shift up! Again, I'm used to it now, but I think BMW has it right.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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It does feel unnatural at first, but I got use to it after a while. Its kinda like when you play a flight simulation games and the control aren't inverted.

I won't say all but most racecar use pull-back as an upshift. XTRAC use the same motion on their sequential gearbox. Rally & open wheel guys use the same method.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Mazda also is a pull back to up-shift. I personally like the forward-up/backward-down shifting approach for manumatics. But I wish I had a manual.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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oops! repost
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
it's drive by wire - just cut and splice, right?
Exactly I was gonna say...
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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YES, fast, easy. awsome mod

So I read this post @ work about “pull back, shift up”. Driving home my brain wants to pull back, only to hit redline. This is fupup, this needs to be fixed. So here it is. Took me less than a hour and that’s only cause I triple check along the way. First I accept NO responsibility. Everything here is for 04 coupe. Quick check of 03 sedan and 06 coupe shows all the same. Have fun.

With engine off, put gear selector in drive.
Remove shift ****. Remove consol trim.
DISCONECT negative battery cable.
At front of shift selector you’ll find connector “M47”
With small flat blade pop “M47” out of hold clip.
Separate connector. On the male pin side, remove both the pin retainer clips.
With needle nose pliers gently pull on wire to release pin.
Swap 7 and 8. Re-assemble.

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After a spirited test drive, I can’t call this a mod, it’s a fix. I have a more positive up-shift and less chance of premature downshift. It took virtually no getting use to, it cost NOTHING and if you don’t like it you can return to stock and no one will know.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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if this really works this should be stickied in the DIY section
 
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Montara's mod has been re-posted in the FAQ section.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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Thats frickn sweet.... Thanks man... I have to do this next weekend. Now I don't have to get used to switching between the wifes E90 330i and my baby
 
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