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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Traditional automatic transmission have no "clutch" to begin with, they are continously "engaged" to the engine. The GT-R dual clutch system engages the clutch automatically, big difference.

that is why word CLUTCH in my post has this "" things around it.


Now days technology is advanced enough to develop transmissions that can engage CLUTCH automatically.

Before they had to replace CLUTCH with TORQUE CONVERTER.

the Idea behind AT transmission that it engages "Clutch" mechanism AUTOMATICALLY instead of manual engagement.

GRTs transmission Engages clutch automatically.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JOKER
that is why word CLUTCH in my post has this "" things around it.


Now days technology is advanced enough to develop transmissions that can engage CLUTCH automatically.

Before they had to replace CLUTCH with TORQUE CONVERTER.

the Idea behind AT transmission that it engages "Clutch" mechanism AUTOMATICALLY instead of manual engagement.

GRTs transmission Engages clutch automatically.
A torque converter is nothing like a clutch in function or appearance, they work nothing alike. No one who understood how both worked would state they are interchangeable. The entire transmissions are different as a result. Please do some reading on the subject, then we can discuss this.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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http://www.gtr-tech.com/wiki/Transmission_(NPK)

If the tranny can automatically shift for you, I'd call it an auto, albeit a VERY ADVANCED auto (and definitely very unlike a traditional auto w/torque converter). Advanced automatic, manumatic, whatever you wanna call it, the GTR's tranny is still all good.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
A torque converter is nothing like a clutch in function or appearance, they work nothing alike. No one who understood how both worked would state they are interchangeable. The entire transmissions are different as a result. Please do some reading on the subject, then we can discuss this.

Who said anything about them being interchangeable.
Who said they look alike or work alike.

I said that they do same fvcking thing.

Torque converter transfers torque provide by the engine to the transmission.

Clutch does the same fvcking thing.


In manual transmission torque converting mechanism AKA CLUTCH engaged manualy

In Automatic transmission tongue converting mechanism AKA TORQUE CONVERTER engages automatically.


In GTRs ALL NEW 6 SPEED DUAL CLUTCH transmission torque converting mechanisms AKA CLUTCHES engage automatically.


So how is it close to manual trany then it is to AUTO?

Cuz it's got clutches?

well they engage Automatically.

I guess GTRs trany truly is the best of both worlds.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CalsonicVQ
http://www.gtr-tech.com/wiki/Transmission_(NPK)

If the tranny can automatically shift for you, I'd call it an auto, albeit a VERY ADVANCED auto (and definitely very unlike a traditional auto w/torque converter). Advanced automatic, manumatic, whatever you wanna call it, the GTR's tranny is still all good.

link don't work man.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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link don't work man.
Link fixed!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Does your right foot break off from pressing the brake/gas also?
Not for mee, since I drive a 5AT
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JOKER
Who said anything about them being interchangeable.
Who said they look alike or work alike.

I said that hey do same fvcking thing.

Torque converter transfers torque provide by the engine to the transmission.

Clutch does the same fvcking thing.


In manual transmission torque converting mechanism AKA CLUTCH engaged manualy

In Automatic transmission tongue converting mechanism AKA TORQUE CONVERTER engages automatically.


In GTRs ALL NEW 6 SPEED DUAL CLUTCH transmission torque converting mechanisms AKA CLUTCHES engage automatically.


So how is it close to manual trany then it is to AUTO?

Cuz it's got clutches?


well they engage Automatically.
YES!
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I guess GTRs trany truly is the best of both worlds.
Many would argue this, because it is NEITHER
Why is that so hard to understand? The GTR tranny is neither a traditional MT/AT, it is its own type of transmission that is more like a MT than an AT
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
YES!

Many would argue this, because it is NEITHER
Why is that so hard to understand? The GTR tranny is neither a traditional MT/AT, it is its own type of transmission that is more like a MT than an AT

You really "something" man.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CalsonicVQ
Link fixed!
Great site man.


Awesome source of info.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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You really "something" man.
Yes, a stubborn MFer who knows when he's right
 
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Read this Joker
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-c...ansmission.htm
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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man this fourm got off topic..lol
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Yes, a stubborn MFer who knows when he's right

My point was that clutch or two clutches or five clutches or fvcking 8 of them. It don't matter.

They engage automatically.

THAT'S IT!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LazyAlex
man this fourm got off topic..lol
This is G35Driver man.


This is what threads do around here.
 
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