Its time for 3.5 or 3.6 rear gearing !!!
The 3.3 "stops working" somewhere between 90 and 100. I don't remember exactly where, but I've tested it before... however, if you try and set it that fast (and it doesn't) and then slow back down again, it will set.
Somewhere I seem to recall someone saying they had the problem where their cruise would work fine, unless they tried to set it over a certain speed (like 80 i think?) and then they had no CC until they cycled the ignition.
It kinda pisses me off that these cars shut off the cruise over 90 anyway. My Trans-Am would set at 140
Somewhere I seem to recall someone saying they had the problem where their cruise would work fine, unless they tried to set it over a certain speed (like 80 i think?) and then they had no CC until they cycled the ignition.
It kinda pisses me off that these cars shut off the cruise over 90 anyway. My Trans-Am would set at 140
The 3.3 "stops working" somewhere between 90 and 100. I don't remember exactly where, but I've tested it before... however, if you try and set it that fast (and it doesn't) and then slow back down again, it will set.
Somewhere I seem to recall someone saying they had the problem where their cruise would work fine, unless they tried to set it over a certain speed (like 80 i think?) and then they had no CC until they cycled the ignition.
It kinda pisses me off that these cars shut off the cruise over 90 anyway. My Trans-Am would set at 140
Somewhere I seem to recall someone saying they had the problem where their cruise would work fine, unless they tried to set it over a certain speed (like 80 i think?) and then they had no CC until they cycled the ignition.
It kinda pisses me off that these cars shut off the cruise over 90 anyway. My Trans-Am would set at 140
I've set it at various speeds all the way to 90. No issues. I did this on my way to Laughlin during the LAST thread like this. Some things never change
dtor said he loses his at 75mph. It's his "own experience". What you mention is "your" experience.
Your conclusion about my statement is false.
Again semantics war going nowhere.
Your conclusion about my statement is false.
Again semantics war going nowhere.
https://g35driver.com/forums/5482806-post75.html
I've set it at various speeds all the way to 90. No issues. I did this on my way to Laughlin during the LAST thread like this. Some things never change
I've set it at various speeds all the way to 90. No issues. I did this on my way to Laughlin during the LAST thread like this. Some things never change
Not surprising considering you have both a newer TCM and ECM.
The question is: Mark, if you try and set yours over 80 MPH, does it simply not set, or does it kill the CC until you shut the car off and crank it up again.
Ok, so Marks won't set over 80, yours over 90 (normal one doesn't set over 90 anyway)
Not surprising considering you have both a newer TCM and ECM.
The question is: Mark, if you try and set yours over 80 MPH, does it simply not set, or does it kill the CC until you shut the car off and crank it up again.
Not surprising considering you have both a newer TCM and ECM.
The question is: Mark, if you try and set yours over 80 MPH, does it simply not set, or does it kill the CC until you shut the car off and crank it up again.
^Ok.
So my next question is, it only shuts off the cruise if you try and set it over 80, or does it also kill it if you exceed 80 with the cruise turned on, but not set? (only one green light on the dash)
So my next question is, it only shuts off the cruise if you try and set it over 80, or does it also kill it if you exceed 80 with the cruise turned on, but not set? (only one green light on the dash)
Ok, so Marks won't set over 80, yours over 90 (normal one doesn't set over 90 anyway)
Not surprising considering you have both a newer TCM and ECM.
The question is: Mark, if you try and set yours over 80 MPH, does it simply not set, or does it kill the CC until you shut the car off and crank it up again.
Not surprising considering you have both a newer TCM and ECM.
The question is: Mark, if you try and set yours over 80 MPH, does it simply not set, or does it kill the CC until you shut the car off and crank it up again.
Mark has an 03... how is his ECM and TCM newer?
so are we concluding that since Mark can't set his cc if traveling over 80, that he no longer has cc?
Again, anyone that interpreted: "with 3.7 you lose CC" as anything other than the cruise control simply doesnt work at all, then you have a very weird concept of interpretation.
Now if someone stated you may not be able to engage cc after XX mph, that's entirely different. But as stated earlier, who cares, you cant set it under 25 or over 89 with OEM anyway, so all cc (even stock) can not be engaged at some point.
Again, anyone that interpreted: "with 3.7 you lose CC" as anything other than the cruise control simply doesnt work at all, then you have a very weird concept of interpretation.
Now if someone stated you may not be able to engage cc after XX mph, that's entirely different. But as stated earlier, who cares, you cant set it under 25 or over 89 with OEM anyway, so all cc (even stock) can not be engaged at some point.
MIKE! Settle down a sec, geez! You've confused what I was saying in the post you quoted.
Let's see if I can make this simple:
Stock 03.0 (Mine)
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Set cruise at whatever speed < 90, cruise sets.
Try and set cruise at 100, cruise doesn't set
slow back down to < 90, cruise sets.
Mark's 03.0
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Set cruise at whatever speed < 80, cruise sets.
Try and set cruise at 100, cruise doesn't set
slow back down to < 80, cruise does not set and will not set at ANY speed, until the car is turned off and cranked back up.
Does that mean he's completely lost cruise for swapping to a 3.7? No. Is it annoying? Well, that depends on the person.
He has yet to respond to my last question too. Now if the cruise 'freaks out' any time you exceed 80 with it turned on, then that could get VERY irritating.
Let's see if I can make this simple:
Stock 03.0 (Mine)
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Set cruise at whatever speed < 90, cruise sets.
Try and set cruise at 100, cruise doesn't set
slow back down to < 90, cruise sets.
Mark's 03.0
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Set cruise at whatever speed < 80, cruise sets.
Try and set cruise at 100, cruise doesn't set
slow back down to < 80, cruise does not set and will not set at ANY speed, until the car is turned off and cranked back up.
Does that mean he's completely lost cruise for swapping to a 3.7? No. Is it annoying? Well, that depends on the person.
He has yet to respond to my last question too. Now if the cruise 'freaks out' any time you exceed 80 with it turned on, then that could get VERY irritating.
^So clearly there's a significant difference in how the cruise/vss/wss all interrelate on the 03.0 (old ECM/old TCM) than the 04.5+ (new ECM/new TCM)
But that still leaves questions on the 03.5-04.0 (new ECM/old TCM)
Do they behave like the 03.0, like the 04.5+, or in their own special weird way?
But that still leaves questions on the 03.5-04.0 (new ECM/old TCM)
Do they behave like the 03.0, like the 04.5+, or in their own special weird way?
Ash & Jeff, you can go on and on for days about this car has cc unitl XX mph, that car has it until XX mph, the other car has it, but then has to shut off to get it again. The point is, CC is not LOST.
So the statements in blue below are in fact incorrect - which is all I stated previously - prior to the pages long circle.
And just to be clear - some of us have 3.7 and cc works exactly like stock.
So the statements in blue below are in fact incorrect - which is all I stated previously - prior to the pages long circle.
It's far easier and cheaper to go find a pumpkin with the 3.54 or 3.69 gear sets and swap them in rather than actually pulling out the old gear and pinion. I did my 3.54 vlsd swap in my driveway in about 3 hours. The pumpkin cost $320 from a local recycler. It's one of my favorite mods. IMO, the 3.54 gear seat is the way to go for daily driving and MPG. The 3.69 gear is a bit aggressive and on your 03, you'll loose cruise control.
The short version. There are two different points from which the car calculates MPH, the wheel speed sensors on the differential and sensor on the driveshaft. The ECU compares the values, though we believe the true calculation comes from the wheel speed sensors because when you add gears, there's no speedometer error. If you change the gears, the sensor value on the driveshaft doesn't match up with that of the wheel sensors. If the difference becomes too great, the CC thinks there's a problem therefore it won't engage. The 3.69 gears cause this problem, at least in the 03/04 cars.
lol
OCG35, my claim that you'll loose CC with the 3.7 gear was based off of what I read as posted in post #116 of this thread https://g35driver.com/forums/drivetr...al-swap-3.html. Apparently his CC started working again 1.5 months later. During my policing of every thread on G35Driver.com, I must have missed his update that the CC mysteriously started working again. I'll try and do a better job next time.
The reality is there is a possibility that you'll CC entirely or use of CC in certain situations when doing gear swaps on these cars. There's no rhyme or reason to it. Some people have lost of the use of it with 3.5 swap and a simple search of "cruise control" and "loose" will get you to that conclusion very quickly. Obviously the OP is willing to take the risk. I did too because I wanted the VLSD and deeper gearing for my auto-x stuff. People should just be aware that there are potential downsides to this modification.
BTW, there's nothing wrong with debating with someone and I enjoy it, but you seem to totally lack any tact. You just come out guns a blaze, looking for some sort of e-fight. You could approach things in a more civilized manner and say "Hey, I disagree with you and here's some information to back up my claim" rather than getting so defensive right from the start. It's been a long time since I've gotten into a worthless debate with you and I'm not going to start down that path again. People don't want to read that crap.
The reality is there is a possibility that you'll CC entirely or use of CC in certain situations when doing gear swaps on these cars. There's no rhyme or reason to it. Some people have lost of the use of it with 3.5 swap and a simple search of "cruise control" and "loose" will get you to that conclusion very quickly. Obviously the OP is willing to take the risk. I did too because I wanted the VLSD and deeper gearing for my auto-x stuff. People should just be aware that there are potential downsides to this modification.
BTW, there's nothing wrong with debating with someone and I enjoy it, but you seem to totally lack any tact. You just come out guns a blaze, looking for some sort of e-fight. You could approach things in a more civilized manner and say "Hey, I disagree with you and here's some information to back up my claim" rather than getting so defensive right from the start. It's been a long time since I've gotten into a worthless debate with you and I'm not going to start down that path again. People don't want to read that crap.