surge performance chip?
Dude I couldn't even read this whole thread. This is funkin hilarious... A chip....LMFAO.... 30HP to the wheels..... Oh **** I’m on the floor cracking up. There is no way in hell OP is serious... But I couldn't stop. Then it turned into all out war. 
I personally don't plan on doing any wire tucks to my G because I really don't care how my engine bay looks as long as it's putting out 550HP+ But just to interject, I too have the same background as liche and I must say he is correct. Electronically speaking Impendence would be your only variable in cutting your wires... Now as far as things not working afterwards, I dunno know about that. Maybe a person goofed one time and scared the **** out of everyone... I dunno! But this is a problem that can easily be explained by Ohms law. V/I*R. V and I are inversely proportional to R. (V=voltage, I=amperage and R=resistance) I seriously doubt that increasing the distance on a wire is going to increase the Impendence to a point that the amperage and voltage that are going to the ECU would change. With that being said I don’t know if our cars have some special/ magical wire that can't be cut. If so, that would explain the issues that people have been having when they do cut these wires. I've been an electronic engineer for 10 years + also working with the military and I also have 7+ years as a cryptologist at the Pentagon and I have personally worked on equipment that most people think doesn't exist.
The words above are just my professional opinion and I have personally not looked into the matter because I have no need to, I'm just throwing my two cents in!
Now back to the drama!
I personally don't plan on doing any wire tucks to my G because I really don't care how my engine bay looks as long as it's putting out 550HP+ But just to interject, I too have the same background as liche and I must say he is correct. Electronically speaking Impendence would be your only variable in cutting your wires... Now as far as things not working afterwards, I dunno know about that. Maybe a person goofed one time and scared the **** out of everyone... I dunno! But this is a problem that can easily be explained by Ohms law. V/I*R. V and I are inversely proportional to R. (V=voltage, I=amperage and R=resistance) I seriously doubt that increasing the distance on a wire is going to increase the Impendence to a point that the amperage and voltage that are going to the ECU would change. With that being said I don’t know if our cars have some special/ magical wire that can't be cut. If so, that would explain the issues that people have been having when they do cut these wires. I've been an electronic engineer for 10 years + also working with the military and I also have 7+ years as a cryptologist at the Pentagon and I have personally worked on equipment that most people think doesn't exist. The words above are just my professional opinion and I have personally not looked into the matter because I have no need to, I'm just throwing my two cents in!
Now back to the drama!
^^^ convenient 
of course he wont respond to the previous posts... he knows he can't.
And liche - you can read the posts on your email notifications, so don't play coy.
Bottom line is many extremely knowledgeable people that have been doing wire tucks on this car since before liche even had one have all stated that MAF wires are not to be cut.
Then you have ONE guy sayinig "yes it can, I don't know what the big deal is, I've done it"... pulleeeezzz... what good is the testimony without proof - video tape it (DUH).
My guess is we will never see proof that it can be done...
of course he wont respond to the previous posts... he knows he can't.
And liche - you can read the posts on your email notifications, so don't play coy.
Bottom line is many extremely knowledgeable people that have been doing wire tucks on this car since before liche even had one have all stated that MAF wires are not to be cut.
Then you have ONE guy sayinig "yes it can, I don't know what the big deal is, I've done it"... pulleeeezzz... what good is the testimony without proof - video tape it (DUH).
My guess is we will never see proof that it can be done...
BTW. Stephan max probably has more personal diy technical knowledge than 90% of the members here
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...p-z32-maf.html
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...s-z32-maf.html
Oh and JWT has a diagram to detail how to do it.
http://jimwolftechnology.com/wolfpdf...%20NISSANS.PDF
Not that it has to be noted but it intails cutting off the maxima connector and soldering in a Z32 harness connector.
And the G/Z mafs aren't anything more/less special than the maxima ones. In fact the early G sedan uses a VQ35 maf.
Last edited by Jeff92se; Jan 8, 2010 at 03:36 AM.
I'm 100% positive I won't convince you so this is for everyone else reading. I've mentioned before that the boosted 4 gen maxima guys have been splicing in the Z32 maf for years. I finally decided to dig the thread up.
BTW. Stephan max probably has more personal diy technical knowledge than 90% of the members here
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...p-z32-maf.html
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...s-z32-maf.html
Oh and JWT has a diagram to detail how to do it.
http://jimwolftechnology.com/wolfpdf...%20NISSANS.PDF
Not that it has to be noted but it intails cutting off the maxima connector and soldering in a Z32 harness connector.
And the G/Z mafs aren't anything more/less special than the maxima ones. In fact the early G sedan uses a VQ35 maf.
BTW. Stephan max probably has more personal diy technical knowledge than 90% of the members here
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...p-z32-maf.html
http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...s-z32-maf.html
Oh and JWT has a diagram to detail how to do it.
http://jimwolftechnology.com/wolfpdf...%20NISSANS.PDF
Not that it has to be noted but it intails cutting off the maxima connector and soldering in a Z32 harness connector.
And the G/Z mafs aren't anything more/less special than the maxima ones. In fact the early G sedan uses a VQ35 maf.
I still haven't seen anyone (or heard from a source I consider reliable) successfully cutting MAF sensor wires on a G35.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.
G35 is a 0-5v type
maxima and most nissans/infinitis are hot wire 0-5 type
If someone could answer in a technically sound manner a reply to my last statement, that would be great thanks.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se Yes hot wire type. Usually sends a voltage of 0-5(or similar) to the ecu.
I'd like to note that regardless of make/model, most MAF sensors work on the same principle of sending a voltage signal ranging from 0 to about 5v to represent the mass of air being ingested by the motor.
But if there's evidence that there's something particularly special about a Z or G that makes this particular modification different, I'd be interested in reading about it.
But if there's evidence that there's something particularly special about a Z or G that makes this particular modification different, I'd be interested in reading about it.
I still haven't seen anyone (or heard from a source I consider reliable) successfully cutting MAF sensor wires on a G35.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.
this entire subject is very similar to when I did my taillight mod...
I had the idea, posted in the lighting section to see if anyone knew how to make the brake leds blink - not one person responded...
I got together with a couple people and made it happen... when I posted progress and results all the peanut gallery chimed in about "just do this, just do that"... all of which wouldn't work - and I would tell them that... not one of them ever did it.
To this day I don't think anyone has done the same taillight mod... why? Because its not as easy and cut & dry as so many think.
So yes Jeff, ignorance is bliss... and there's a HUGE difference between internet students (that haven't done one single innovative thing on their car) and people that actually do these things.
I had the idea, posted in the lighting section to see if anyone knew how to make the brake leds blink - not one person responded...
I got together with a couple people and made it happen... when I posted progress and results all the peanut gallery chimed in about "just do this, just do that"... all of which wouldn't work - and I would tell them that... not one of them ever did it.
To this day I don't think anyone has done the same taillight mod... why? Because its not as easy and cut & dry as so many think.
So yes Jeff, ignorance is bliss... and there's a HUGE difference between internet students (that haven't done one single innovative thing on their car) and people that actually do these things.
Dude, I've done MORE than enough wiring DIRECTLY to the ECU. Lengthening the wire/shortening the wire isn't going to change anything. The only problem that arises is from the ECU not getting its signal from the MAF, TB, etc while the battery is plugged in.
I would correlate the problem to people that disconnect their TB without disconnecting the battery. They ruin the TB sometimes because of this.
I would correlate the problem to people that disconnect their TB without disconnecting the battery. They ruin the TB sometimes because of this.
^^^ it's totally relevant to you comment about "ignorance"...
people chiming in about how things can be done - yet never doing it... same thing happened with my taillight mod.
I was simply agreeing with the "ignorance is bliss part"...
people chiming in about how things can be done - yet never doing it... same thing happened with my taillight mod.
I was simply agreeing with the "ignorance is bliss part"...
What technical aspects related to your tailight mod (that I probably never even chimed in on as I barely cared about it) you had/have, has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the signal carried by the maf wire.
I'm not really interested in your philosophical ramblings as to why maf cutting/splicing won't work.
You wanted evidence, it's here. The fact that any older hardwire splice for a piggyback has to have a maf cut and solder proves it can be done without ill effects.
If you have an actual technical reason, post it up. If you don't, then yes, you are in fact wasting everyone's time with irreverent references and non-technically sound repeated quotes.
*Jeff notes that I mentioned this already*
I'm not really interested in your philosophical ramblings as to why maf cutting/splicing won't work.
You wanted evidence, it's here. The fact that any older hardwire splice for a piggyback has to have a maf cut and solder proves it can be done without ill effects.
If you have an actual technical reason, post it up. If you don't, then yes, you are in fact wasting everyone's time with irreverent references and non-technically sound repeated quotes.
*Jeff notes that I mentioned this already*
I'm 100% positive I won't convince you(OCG35) so this is for everyone else reading
I still haven't seen anyone (or heard from a source I consider reliable) successfully cutting MAF sensor wires on a G35.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.
We could go for days, weeks, months and years on and on about all sorts of things... but until someone shows that it can be doen n this car - its all futile.