Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
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When I called abou the Y-pipe the guys were happy to discuss things for a while, including the dyno. They said they used the same procedure as most tuners: take a bunch of runs stock and modified, and pick the <font color=red>WORST stock</font color=red> and the <font color=green>BEST modified</font color=green>. He had no problem explaining this.
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I'd be VERY interested to see the <font color=red>worst stock</font color=red> compared to the <font color=red>best stock</font color=red> . I wonder if the gains are almost the same as the <font color=red>worst stock</font color=red> and the <font color=green>best modified</font color=green> ?????
Thanks for the info, Rikker.
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
When I called abou the Y-pipe the guys were happy to discuss things for a while, including the dyno. They said they used the same procedure as most tuners: take a bunch of runs stock and modified, and pick the <font color=red>WORST stock</font color=red> and the <font color=green>BEST modified</font color=green>. He had no problem explaining this.
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I'd be VERY interested to see the <font color=red>worst stock</font color=red> compared to the <font color=red>best stock</font color=red> . I wonder if the gains are almost the same as the <font color=red>worst stock</font color=red> and the <font color=green>best modified</font color=green> ?????
Thanks for the info, Rikker.
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
Exactly. What is required is a "difference of means" test to show significant differences due to the independent variable or chance alone.
2004.5 Coupe/5AT/Ivory/Everything but front spoiler/Nismo CAI/Crawford V5/Crawford Cats
2004.5 Coupe/5AT/Ivory/Everything but front spoiler/Nismo CAI/Crawford V5/Crawford Cats
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
Neffster:
It was my car that was tested with the Y-pipe. 3 stock runs
netted 219.5, 219.9, & 220.1. 5 runs were made with the new
y-pipe: the best run was 225.5 & the worst was 223.9. All the
other runs fell somewhere in between.
The 225.5 HP run was the first with the new Y-pipe. I think this
happened because we had to let the car cool down before
changing the pipe.
5AT/DG/Premium/4pc.Aero
Clear Corners
35% Tint
Aluminum Pedals
18" Iforged 3pce. Aero
It was my car that was tested with the Y-pipe. 3 stock runs
netted 219.5, 219.9, & 220.1. 5 runs were made with the new
y-pipe: the best run was 225.5 & the worst was 223.9. All the
other runs fell somewhere in between.
The 225.5 HP run was the first with the new Y-pipe. I think this
happened because we had to let the car cool down before
changing the pipe.
5AT/DG/Premium/4pc.Aero
Clear Corners
35% Tint
Aluminum Pedals
18" Iforged 3pce. Aero
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
Now from that info. I would conclude that this y-pipe is right up there with the rest of them. It is not really any better based on ~5hp performance gain (that's pretty standard), and not too much better based on price (my JIC was $420 incl. shipping).
Basically I'd say that this y-pipe is another equivalent alternative to fujitsubo and JIC. Which ever one you can get for the cheapest price including shipping is probably the "best deal". If I was the owner at Unlimited Tuning I'd definitely drop the price to have an edge on the market. For $350, this would be the clear choice [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img].
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Basically I'd say that this y-pipe is another equivalent alternative to fujitsubo and JIC. Which ever one you can get for the cheapest price including shipping is probably the "best deal". If I was the owner at Unlimited Tuning I'd definitely drop the price to have an edge on the market. For $350, this would be the clear choice [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img].
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
I got my y pipe on ebay for $220 shipped. t304 ss dual 2.5" going into a 3" collector. Awesome piece for the price. Someone on my350.com is setting up a group buy for $180 shipped that I missed ina couple of weeks.
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Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
There's a GB for UT's Y-pipe under the Exhaust forum.
https://g35driver.com/forums/showfla...sed&sb=5&part=
Let's goooooooo, we need 10 bodies!!
https://g35driver.com/forums/showfla...sed&sb=5&part=
Let's goooooooo, we need 10 bodies!!
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
Yeah but why pay $350 when you can pay $220 shipped for something that is almost identical.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6755
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Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
man.. these Y-pipes are just flying off the shelves.. can't wait to get mine!!
David
04 Ivory Pearl G35C 5AT Premium 18"
Z-Tube/Popcharger, Pioneer AVIC-N1

David
04 Ivory Pearl G35C 5AT Premium 18"
Z-Tube/Popcharger, Pioneer AVIC-N1

Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
I got a (y pipe) catback ss t304 3" all the way back for $175 plus $80 for shipping.
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Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
lemans350zr,
dyno your stock vehicle 5 times, then install the new exhaust and then re-dyno it 5 times on the same day. Post your results and tell us how much hp/tq you gained from your under $300 exhaust. With all of the money you saved on the exhaust, you might have enough scrap left over to pay for the dynos. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
dyno your stock vehicle 5 times, then install the new exhaust and then re-dyno it 5 times on the same day. Post your results and tell us how much hp/tq you gained from your under $300 exhaust. With all of the money you saved on the exhaust, you might have enough scrap left over to pay for the dynos. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
The y pipe is identical, if you want to use your money that way so be it. In the mean time I will continue to save my money where I can to other mods.Whatever exhaust you use the gain will be neglible.
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
lemans350zr,
Actually I'm betting that you've gained ~5hp with the new y-pipe, then gained zero hp with the new exhaust. Nissan has designed a fantastic exhaust (post y-pipe) and the Performance Nissan Racing groups endless dynos, and both the CA and FL dyno days have proven that the stock exhaust (again post y-pipe) is great. I was thinking that you might have considered buying the cheap y-pipe and something else besides the exhaust to have saved a little more money and maybe saved a few hp as well. The dyno thing is not only fun, it's informative. (And for the record I've already spent some money dynoing my modded G to show how gains work on our cars [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img])
Keep in mind, the fujitsubo cat back exhaust showed a gain of ~5 rwhp across the power band in the CA dyno day. The ~$400 fujitsubo y-pipe alone did the job, the other ~$800 for the exhaust was shown to be money that could have been better spent on a NA G35.
Also, Dave-O's well publicised (and often butchered) exhaust comparison post showed a peak hp gain for half-a-dozen different exhausts that were all basically within +/-2 hp gain of what a y-pipe mod alone will yield. This +/-2 hp is well within the dyno tolerances, thus making the ~$200-$400 price for a y-pipe a great investment over a full aftermarket catback system.
I am/was truly interested in seeing how your cheaper version of a full catback system compares to the $1200+ systems. I bet it would be eye opening and make a lot of people feel as if they've spent too much money. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Actually I'm betting that you've gained ~5hp with the new y-pipe, then gained zero hp with the new exhaust. Nissan has designed a fantastic exhaust (post y-pipe) and the Performance Nissan Racing groups endless dynos, and both the CA and FL dyno days have proven that the stock exhaust (again post y-pipe) is great. I was thinking that you might have considered buying the cheap y-pipe and something else besides the exhaust to have saved a little more money and maybe saved a few hp as well. The dyno thing is not only fun, it's informative. (And for the record I've already spent some money dynoing my modded G to show how gains work on our cars [img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img])
Keep in mind, the fujitsubo cat back exhaust showed a gain of ~5 rwhp across the power band in the CA dyno day. The ~$400 fujitsubo y-pipe alone did the job, the other ~$800 for the exhaust was shown to be money that could have been better spent on a NA G35.
Also, Dave-O's well publicised (and often butchered) exhaust comparison post showed a peak hp gain for half-a-dozen different exhausts that were all basically within +/-2 hp gain of what a y-pipe mod alone will yield. This +/-2 hp is well within the dyno tolerances, thus making the ~$200-$400 price for a y-pipe a great investment over a full aftermarket catback system.
I am/was truly interested in seeing how your cheaper version of a full catback system compares to the $1200+ systems. I bet it would be eye opening and make a lot of people feel as if they've spent too much money. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
<font color=blue>The above statements are only my take on the issue. If you disagree with anything I typed then you are 100% right!</font color=blue>
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
To be honest your right. I actually took your frist post kinda woring. I knw that the best bet was the y pipe and test pipes. I was actually going to leave the stock exhaust from the y pipe back. But again I got it for so cheap I really didnt think it could hurt. I might not have gained any from it but dont think I really lost much either. My point I guess was I felt certain people charge way more than what its worth. The y pipe is an excellent example. Anyway!!
Re: Unlimited Tuning Y-pipe dyno.
According to the manufacturer the opening at the collector is about 3" and the CAT openings are about 2.3" - 2.4". If I'm not mistaken, these are the same dimesnions as the Fujitsubo.
03.5S DP / Prem / Sport / NAV / Other
03.5S DP / Prem / Sport / NAV / Other



