Twin SUPERCHARGED g35
#151
Check this out see who can guess who said this to me. Called both stillen and vortech about my build one was optimistically supportive and very helpful and the other was very dismissive, gave zero advice, but said it was a good idea. just didnt want to be responsible for anything..which i can sorta understand
#152
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Check this out see who can guess who said this to me. Called both stillen and vortech about my build one was optimistically supportive and very helpful and the other was very dismissive, gave zero advice, but said it was a good idea. just didnt want to be responsible for anything..which i can sorta understand
#153
[QUOTE=got_boost99;4542049]No performance gains, or not a whole lot. You're better off using the Vortech only, and installing supporting mods. While being different is a nice thing, it makes no sense to do it if it's not practical/useful.
I was told by a few that i should see any sort off hp gain at all at this point because of my desired boost levels just a gain in responsiveness ei. quicker to rev. told to me buy a local engine builder that ive come to trust but then again he could be wrong. When i came across diagrams of wincharged systems most had what looked like valves to divert air after the turbo spooled up to almost cut out the roots completely assuming solving the airflow problem you suggested earlier. Is this correct? or is this just to eliminate back pressure in the intake before the roots that would be caused by the charged air from the turbo. I am not really looking for substantial gains what so ever. basically originality and recognition for the build. both kits were alot cheaper than retail so its not like i dropped a ton on either (stillen kit ran me 1000 total)
I was told by a few that i should see any sort off hp gain at all at this point because of my desired boost levels just a gain in responsiveness ei. quicker to rev. told to me buy a local engine builder that ive come to trust but then again he could be wrong. When i came across diagrams of wincharged systems most had what looked like valves to divert air after the turbo spooled up to almost cut out the roots completely assuming solving the airflow problem you suggested earlier. Is this correct? or is this just to eliminate back pressure in the intake before the roots that would be caused by the charged air from the turbo. I am not really looking for substantial gains what so ever. basically originality and recognition for the build. both kits were alot cheaper than retail so its not like i dropped a ton on either (stillen kit ran me 1000 total)
#154
soooo... aside from it sounding like crap, it sounded normal?
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anyway, i really wanna see this thing happen.... please have multiple cameras rolling when you first crank it for real
and good luck!
#155
yea that sounds bad i knw but kinda just ment to say it idled ok just a slight miss from there not having any lines hooked up ei valve cover hose, brake booster hose, and the 3 lines from the roots charger intake tube. But i heard no abnormal sounds note* under slight load 1500 rpm max....had to rev it to keep it running beings all the hoses were disconnected causing the misfire
#158
Apparently you haven't driven a car in that caliber. He rev'd it "forever" cuz the tires are spinning. If you shift too soon, you can either bug the car or lose traction even more. Once he was going, it is a rush to keep the car straight with that much power, hence the lights and stuff. You should try driving a big HP car like that w/o taking your foot of the gas... But if you do, you'll love it!
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If he's doing a top speed run, he needs to get his foot out of the gas. he'll accel faster if he actually backs off and gets traction.
I can smoke the tires through 3rd gear but i'll run 2 seconds slower in the 1/8th. If i get my foot out of the gas a little and let the tires hook up i run my fastest times.
#161
yea but the damn thing prolly gets .5 mpg they way its smelling i know i had major leak from where i put the adaptor plate for the fuel rail on so some of the sent is from that but i can tell its rich as hell! I will post a high quality 2min+ video this wkend once i have the lines all run good and oil catch mounted and........
hood cut
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#164
the stillen blower compresses the air directly based on the engine speed, forcing more air into the roots type blower will not help it spin up any quicker. If anything, the small bypass valve on the side of it will dump the extra pressure. (this is the valve that controls the boost, since at idle even the blower is compressing air, it helps the car not to create boost whil idleing etc). I would expect there to be a huge buildup of pressure between the blowers, creating MAF sensor issues, thus creating fuel delivery issues. All in all an interesting thought, but not at all practical.
don't forget that the stillen blower only is goo up to about 7 psi before it heat soaks the air like crazy, robbing you of power ultimately. It's not efficient beyond that.
also technically speaking, the stillen blower will create boost even before the vortech spools, which completely defeats any purpose of this idea...
#165
actually I do not believe this to be the case. Technically, the Vortech is not of any benefit here in this setup.
the stillen blower compresses the air directly based on the engine speed, forcing more air into the roots type blower will not help it spin up any quicker. If anything, the small bypass valve on the side of it will dump the extra pressure. (this is the valve that controls the boost, since at idle even the blower is compressing air, it helps the car not to create boost whil idleing etc). I would expect there to be a huge buildup of pressure between the blowers, creating MAF sensor issues, thus creating fuel delivery issues. All in all an interesting thought, but not at all practical.
don't forget that the stillen blower only is goo up to about 7 psi before it heat soaks the air like crazy, robbing you of power ultimately. It's not efficient beyond that.
also technically speaking, the stillen blower will create boost even before the vortech spools, which completely defeats any purpose of this idea...
the stillen blower compresses the air directly based on the engine speed, forcing more air into the roots type blower will not help it spin up any quicker. If anything, the small bypass valve on the side of it will dump the extra pressure. (this is the valve that controls the boost, since at idle even the blower is compressing air, it helps the car not to create boost whil idleing etc). I would expect there to be a huge buildup of pressure between the blowers, creating MAF sensor issues, thus creating fuel delivery issues. All in all an interesting thought, but not at all practical.
don't forget that the stillen blower only is goo up to about 7 psi before it heat soaks the air like crazy, robbing you of power ultimately. It's not efficient beyond that.
also technically speaking, the stillen blower will create boost even before the vortech spools, which completely defeats any purpose of this idea...