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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Lightweight battery conversion

Has anyone tried to do this on their G yet? I have a friend who lives near me who has done this to his Z and has had good results. My car battery died today and I need a new one by Monday so I figured why not do this now. I'm using this battery Odyssey PC545.

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http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/Light...y_Installation

http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc545-battery.html

I'll be creating a cradle out of spare sheet metal that I just happen to have left over from when I fixed my bar-b-q grill. Since I work in design I have taken 20 minutes to design a cradle using AUTOCAD. Pics are attached.


I'll take a thin piece of sheet metal and cut 2 strips about 4 inches wide by X length depending on the size of the battery. One strip will be the cradle and the other will be the securing belt that holds the battery in place.



Cradle strip will be shaped into a box and bolted onto the OEM battery cradle.




I'll fold little wings from the sides to form the base of the securing belt that will go over the top of the battery.





Top strap will be shaped as shown in the pic below:




Diagram showing entire assembly.



Diagram showing entire assembly with battery in place.




According to the info I've seen so far this battery should work fine instead of the normal car battery, the life of the battery might be only 2 years but it should work fine. Can anyone give me more info on this? I'm still on the fence about this. Thoughts yes or no? I got my flame suit on so opinions pro/con are welcomed.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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intresting will do this when I need a new battery.. thanks!
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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One of the drawbacks to doing this is I would need to buy adapters to fit into the battery so that I could connect it to the car, if you look closely at the terminals you will notice that they point inwards instead of outwards like a car battery.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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how about reroute to the trunk?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Amazing. Look at the size difference. It's made in the US too. 12lbs. I like.
Stock battery weights 35.5 lbs on my scales and my new PC545 is 11.5 lbs. 24 lbs difference. People who serious about improving the car will understand me.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Do those batteries last as long as the regular ones?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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Yes people have done this on their G. I have a friend that is running an Odyssey battery in his trunk.
 
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^1+ on does it last as long.

But wow 24lb difference is crazy!!
 
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Originally Posted by herrschaft
Do those batteries last as long as the regular ones?
Probably not, but who knows Anyone here who has first hand experience with this?


Originally Posted by rastaman
how about reroute to the trunk?
Rerouting to the trunk would be optimal, however right now I don't have enough time since I need my car up and running by Sunday. I have a busy weekend so time is essential to me right now.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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BTW you guys we should make this thread visible to members only so rival BMW owners don't see it.

Originally Posted by herrschaft
Do those batteries last as long as the regular ones?
Features:

* 12 Year design life and 6 to 10 year service life
* 99.9% pure lead providing minimal plate corrosion
* Explosion proof
* Corrosion proof
* 2 to 3 times the cranking power of equilivant size battery
* Spill and leak proof
* Superior vibration resistance
* Fully Charged out of the box
* When fully charged can be stored for up to 2 years at 77° F
* May be installed on its sides at any angle without sacrificing performance attributes
* Military grade version of the Hawker Genesis
* 2 Year Full Powersports Warranty
* Made in the USA

Gotta buy that before China makes them.
 

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^Thanks...definitely getting one of these when my battery dies.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Good news! I called around and found a store near my house that carries the battery and the SAE terminal adapters, they will install the adapters for me and I should be able to get started on this build tonight. I'll take pics as I go to show you guys later. The fact that other people know about this gives me some confidence.

The battery looks like this:



The terminals turn the female ends into male ends so it looks like this:
http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-sae-terminals.html


pics above are just for reference, actual battery may vary slightly.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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I hate to be the dissenter in the ranks, but I used one of these a couple years ago for my build of an Eclipse GSX. Here's the pic of where I installed mine:

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This battery won't operate lights or electronics past about 20 minutes or so on a charge (when the car is not running, of course). In addition to that, this battery doesn't carry near the cranking power of its larger counterparts. If you're running your traditional electronics, I wager it's better to stick with a traditional battery as I did notice that this battery didn't have near the capacity to keep juice flowing to all my components.

I put the car in storage for a while, and when I took it out, the battery was completely dead. I had even unhooked the damn thing! Now the bad part of this is that when this battery loses its charge, you can't revive it. I had to order a new battery! The same thing happened with my friend's RX-7.

I think that there are much better places to save 20 pounds on a vehicle, and much better battery alternatives out there, especially if your vehicle is anything close to a daily driver still.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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2-3 times the cranking power of a similar sized battery. Problem is you are putting this one where a much larger one orginally resided.

What is the actual CCA on this?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Took the liberty of looking it up, here's the specs:

-680 cranking amps for 5 seconds
-595 cranking amps for 10 seconds
-525 cranking amps for 20 seconds
-25 minute reserve capacity with 25amp load
-CCA - 220

Notice how quickly the cranking amps drop off. This battery is small, but at the expense of its reserve power.
 
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