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Old 12-28-2006, 01:56 PM
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'06 Rev-Up Supercharger Safe Stock Internals?

I intend on goin either Stillen or Vortech Supercharged when March rolls around but I'v been doing a lot of research in between. I wanted to know if anyone who has gone FI with the Rev-Up Motor knows what the safe level of HP/TQ is on a stock block for the '06 Rev-Up motors??? I know they are stronger than the previous non-revups, but by how much. I do intend on changing out the internals for stronger, forged parts down the road....but up until what numbers can I get at a safe level with a proper tune once its installed? From what Vortech is claiming on their new supercharger is 440WHP/354WTQ at a safe 8-9lb psi boost. So if I went with that kit, I would love to have those numbers after the tune on the dyno. Buttttt not at the risk of blowing my motor the instant I put the tires on street asphalt lol. And granted I keep the RPM "redline" shifts to a modest 5800-6000rpm.
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:06 PM
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If you go stillen you can get it pre tuned safely with stock internals with out blowing your motor. Stillen has a warranty that stands behind it as long as you don' t modify the tune. AS for Vortech, that is left to the user to decide. I say 350 - 370 would be a nice tune. My better advice would be go ahead and get the internals re done if you are worried about blowing the motor. Don't waste time and money getting it later than rather at the same time with the S/C.
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gladiac2k1
From what Vortech is claiming on their new supercharger is 440WHP/354WTQ at a safe 8-9lb psi boost. .
I haven't check their site but are you sure that it is 440WHP and not Crank HP? Revup does produce a little better HP but not that much.
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:04 PM
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I haven't check their site but are you sure that it is 440WHP and not Crank HP? Revup does produce a little better HP but not that much.
OOPS! I'll make a correction....this is from a site that was posted by another forum member when there were talks about the new 06 Rev-Up edition S/C from Vortech. http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...Z218-060SQ-G35 Thats the link where you can buy it from and the power numbers it claims from stock to FI for crank HP/TQ. Not wheel HP/TQ.
But I've been wanting to lean towards the Stillen S/C Stage 2 because it is safer and comes with the warranty. Which is rare with superchargers. Plus the power is more than enuff fun...and if I really wanted to push it after I build up the motor then I would just have to change the pulleys/belts to make it a Stage 3. 11psi of boost...nice. lol The only thing is that I would have to change the hood in order to fit the Stillen charger. I wanted to keep the stock hood and make the car a complete sleeper. But I also happen to like how the power cowl hood looks on the coupe. So I'm still torn haha.
 

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I would be careful--the rev-up motors have been blowing on their own in a number of people's cars.
 
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Where did you hear that? Any links or articles to back that up?
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ39
I would be careful--the rev-up motors have been blowing on their own in a number of people's cars.
Since Revup is new the only one I know at least here that blew a Revup is paranormal and that is because he was running around 440+WHP.

Stillen SC does not mean you are safe. Skyline_G35/username (I think it's the same person) blew his motor on Stage 2

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238880

Revup or Non-Revup below 400WHP is the safe limit, below 380whp for Turbo since Turbo does create more TQ.
 
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Yea i wrote SAFER in my post about the Stillen S/C, not Safe...because I know that modifying an engine to hold extra power it was not designed to isn't safe. But with stock internals running 440+WHP is askin for it! I would have def built the motor up if I knew i was runnin those numbers! I just wanna have a spirited car to drive right now with a supercharger until I decide to make it a full performance car and build the whole thing up. Then I can run great pounds of boost all day long with no worry But yea I guess the Rev-Up motors aren't any stronger than the Non-Rev motors? Any other forum members have any personal insight to this?
 
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Im pretty sure Vortech is safe on stock internals with a moderate boost... such as 8psi.

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Yea I just wanna make sure that when I do put the Vortech on that the stock internals will be able to handle everyday driving and some hard pulls on her. I am not gonna go wild on the car and redline it everyday, cause that will undoubtedly put my motor in the grave without a build. It should make it a fun car without much risk, buttt I'm still wary about missing a shift and blowin it when im higher up in the RPMs.
 
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:39 PM
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you can run more boost if you run higher than premium octane gas and take cooling very seriously
 
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My understanding is that the kit for the 2006 Rev Up is different from the 2005 Rev Up. There was a group buy not too long ago and when I inquired about pricing for a 2006 6MT coupe, I was told that the kit was not available for the G yet. It is for the Z but not the G. Be careful and I would double check with Vortech before placing any orders. I don't know what the difference between the kit for the 05 and 06's are but I do know that they are different.
 
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:53 PM
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I have been inquiring on the same issue lately. I know athen G posted this on another post i was reading, u might want to look into it as an option. http://sgpracing-store.stores.yahoo.net/sgpravqmo.html I was planning on getting the vortech setup for my 06 6mt and with this site i am prob going to just get it and if the engine blows, just purchase a basic short block package here.
 
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Originally Posted by AthenG
Stillen SC does not mean you are safe. *******_***/username (I think it's the same person) blew his motor on Stage 2 .

It's very easy to change the Stillen to the stage 3 pulley and not tell anyone. The stage 3 runs a little lean and can pop your motor if you don't get good gauges and a new fuel pump.
 
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The stillen stage 3 rev up is the same as stage 4 reg..410 hp to flywheel 340-350 to wheels..i have stage two..carb legal on my rev up 06....no guages..their tune is conservative leaving rev limiter etc..i feel its pretty safe...going to stage 3 the add a pulley,fuel and a small retune on their box.They are not working on stage 4 for the rev-up...stage 3 voids the warranty..I do think stage 2 with 325-335 whp is the safest you can go, 390 to flywheel,,,,and its a lot of fun.
 

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