Forced Induction Discussion of turbos , superchargers , and nitrous upgrades on the G35

Is the supercharger worth it?

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Is the supercharger worth it?

I mean, say 2004 0-60 time is really 5.7 secs. How much faster would it be with the supercharger? Would I ever be able to get sub 5 secs with any mods in this car?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:20 AM
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depends how much you wanna put into it.

it's worth it for some, but not for others. spend some more time in the forced induction forum and you'll find your answers.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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i say yes and no

yes because im sure its alot funner

but no because you will have no warranty and if you blow the motor your ****ed
 

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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strap a jet turbine in your engine. your good to go
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Beebo
i say yes and no

yes because im sure its alot funner

but no because you will have no warranty and if you blow the motor your ****ed

Stillen and Vortech both offer 3 yr / 36,000 mile warranties if they are installed and tuned by an "official shop".
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MAZyar
I mean, say 2004 0-60 time is really 5.7 secs. How much faster would it be with the supercharger? Would I ever be able to get sub 5 secs with any mods in this car?
I have a fairly conservative setup (364 whp, one of the slower supercharged G's here) and my 0-60 time (according to G-tech) is 4.8 seconds. I guess the validity of that depends on how much you trust G-tech. It's pretty damn fun though, especially if you keep the exterior close to stock, because no one expects it to be a missile. But then you have the reliability issue, me and Hex both have defective Vortechs, mine is currently being fixed and I think his is nearly finished. But you're talking 3-4 weeks downtime if the thing goes. I'm renting a car in the meantime, not exactly cheap. But on the flipside, man I can't wait to get it back.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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No.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Stillen and Vortech both offer 3 yr / 36,000 mile warranties if they are installed and tuned by an "official shop".

Don't believe them and that only apply for a WEAK SAUCE stock pulley, also it only cover the stock short block without any labor. You can buy a stock block for under a 1000 and guess how much to just pull and bring back the motor will cost you? just $2k just for a plain swap, so if you blow up your motor you might as well buy a built short/long block that cost $3000-$5000 since labor will be on you anyways.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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If you buy the Stillen - you can buy the warranty coverage - which dealers honor. It's a 3 year warranty up to a certain Stage of system.

If your only looking at 0-60 times - your looking at the wrong thing altogether. You should be thinking of 60' foot time and 1/4 mile times - unless your road racing.

If your looking for SHORT distance time - you'll want turbo's, as you'll have all the torque at the low RPMS, whereas the SC's will torque out about 1-2K RPM's higher.

Just remember - SC's are safer on the engine overall.

Rick
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Everyone so far has brought up good points. FI is never reliable since the car did not come with a supercharger or turbo stock. It will always be a "risk". Most are comfortable with assuming they are safe with under 400whp since about 90% of FI'ed G35 owners have gone many miles with no problems. I am on the same boat as aero and hexxum though with my blower going out in only 300 miles after the initial install. It is now fixed though and running like a champ . I must say it is definitely A LOT funner then all motor!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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I am on the same boat as aero and hexxum though with my blower going out in only 300 miles after the initial install. It is now fixed though and running like a champ
Actually, here's an interesting question for you guys. If someone has a defective Vortech (like us), and Vortech determines that it can't be fixed (but they have to replace it under warranty), do they just send us a refurbished unit? Something tells me that they aren't nice enough to cough up a shiny new SC. That would be another downside, if you're blower goes at low mileage and then they send you something back that had 20,000 miles on it before they fixed it. I'm just speculating though.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Everyone so far has brought up good points. FI is never reliable since the car did not come with a supercharger or turbo stock. It will always be a "risk". Most are comfortable with assuming they are safe with under 400whp since about 90% of FI'ed G35 owners have gone many miles with no problems. I am on the same boat as aero and hexxum though with my blower going out in only 300 miles after the initial install. It is now fixed though and running like a champ . I must say it is definitely A LOT funner then all motor!
You definiely have to assume that sooner or later something is going to break or start leaking or some other issue. That's always the risk that you assume when you go FI. We all understood that when we went FI and some of us have already had some issues. Is it worth it . . . . . . HELL MUTHAFOOKING YEAH it's worth it. I am so excited to get my G back this weekend. Once you go FI and you get addicted to boost, it's very hard to settle for being NA again. You just have to make sure that you know what you are getting yourself into and make sure you have the means and funds if something goes wrong.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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the 4.8 is not a good indicator for what a 365 rwhp Vortech G can really do. The G doesn't hook up too well. My assessment is from dozens of trips down the 1/4 mile when I was NA. My best 60' was 2.0 and it was very rare with most of my runs being in the 2.1x to 2.2x range. I would imagine with 365 rwhp that your trap and ET would be very low 13s-high to 12s at 109 to 112 mph. Trap speeds are a really good indication of how much power a car has.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Deang35c6
the 4.8 is not a good indicator for what a 365 rwhp Vortech G can really do. The G doesn't hook up too well. My assessment is from dozens of trips down the 1/4 mile when I was NA. My best 60' was 2.0 and it was very rare with most of my runs being in the 2.1x to 2.2x range. I would imagine with 365 rwhp that your trap and ET would be very low 13s-high to 12s at 109 to 112 mph. Trap speeds are a really good indication of how much power a car has.
Yes, you have it right on the money. I recently ran 13.2 @ 111mph with my sced g. With good tires and a 1.7 60ft I should be hitting somewhere between 12.6-12.8. Trap speeds are definitely a good measure of how fast your car is in comparison to others.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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You definiely have to assume that sooner or later something is going to break or start leaking or some other issue. That's always the risk that you assume when you go FI. We all understood that when we went FI and some of us have already had some issues. Is it worth it . . . . . . HELL MUTHAFOOKING YEAH it's worth it. I am so excited to get my G back this weekend. Once you go FI and you get addicted to boost, it's very hard to settle for being NA again. You just have to make sure that you know what you are getting yourself into and make sure you have the means and funds if something goes wrong.
Couldn't have said it better myself.....
 
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