Too much to read and half of you guys are just trippen, listen to superchargedg, he knows, basically man if you're stage 2 stillen, ahhahaha you'll never see more then 300whp lol, i guestimate 280whp Might as well do all the bolt on possible and flash the car lol. If anything just go stage 4, cause nothing else is worth it for stillen sc, and even then, ur looking at realistically 320whp Thats fact, I almost bought the stillen before, thinking thats all the power i need, nope, I got the Procharger, and nope, still not enough power, now I'm doing a project to get my future goal of 450-500whp You get bored of it over time and thats fact buddy, oh wells, enjoy! But when you get dusted in a race dont get tooo mad

 

^ Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah Blah.

I never said anything more than what else can I do (meaning - what can I nab up *before* the install that will compliment the STG2).

I do NOT race the car.

I'm not so sure about the "never see 300whp and guess 280whp"???? Dude, the car, makes roughly 240whp (give or take for each car's natural differences) STOCK.

I don't want to go to a higher boost FI like twin turbo - nothing more to say.

I DO need to update this post once I get it installed - for my .02, but that's about it.

Thanks Guys!
-WoW

P.s. Again, I don't race the car - but if I did, I'd be sure to stay out of your way.

 

Blah Blah Blah Blah??? Geeez

Did you ever dyno your car? My car is a 5AT and dynoed 254whp on a dynapack dyno, which would come out to 240whp status on a dynojet dyno when I had all the my bolt ons possible. So my car was 240whp with all bolts on for the G35 Possible, so I don't know how you could get 240whp bone stock... I speak with experience and my dyno paper After my Procharger was installed and tune the 1st time, the shop and tuner fvcked it up so badly it was at 280whp on a dynojet, i got it revived at GTM and now it's 350whp, and it's still not enough. Scott at Stillen told me himself even with stage 3 I'm not looking to even pass 310-315whp.....so this is my answer with my opinion with my knowledge I know...so far...

Good Luck with your stillen, you still aint going to get pass 320-340 ever, and thats fact

 

The fact of the matter is, some of us here do have sc/turbos under our hoods, while almost everyone here(and not members of g35driver)don't. So, pls, no more of "your G is slow" or whatever. Stock or Force inducted(single turbo......twin turbo.....Supercharged)........our G's are fast and Beautiful....period. Congratulate yourselves that we all got the money and the knowledge to throw anything under our hoods.

And WhiteonWheat, there ain't nothing wrong having a stillen stg2. And this is what you can do, just enjoy the your car and keep it well maintantained.

 

^^^

This is the force induction thread, this is what we discuss, hahaha...and yes we appreciate and love our beautiful Gz...whats new...thx for chimming in

And yes I hope he enjoy his stg.2 stillen too

 

^ Agreed.

G35Rider92649 - You're comments are based on F.I., but are unnecessary and unrelated to my particular FI thread based solely on Stillen SC's and what other performance parts could others suggest to get to 'compliment' the kit.

I do not require or request negative comments - I'm not racing the car - I'm not going with TT FI kits, or Single T FI Kits. I requested advise for complimented performance parts to the kit I purchased. Period.

You say that you hope I enjoy the STG2 kit? - You say that NOW, but that's not what I read in your first post or any other post after.

I totally agree that our G's/Skyline's are GORGEOUS and FAST (considering how quick they are stock), but again, and again, I went with the STG2 kit for particular reasons. It's a WASTE OF MY TIME (and possibly other interested in the Stillen SC's) for others to "CHIM" in and blast the kit(s) and 'preach' to us about how whatever we purchased suxs. How does that help anyone? How does that make sense to you, coming out now saying that you hope I enjoy the kit...please bro.

You know what you were saying. Who F* cares anyways. I'll let everyone that does care, know how it goes and the results once I get it installed.

Thanks Guys!
-WoW

P.s. No matter what you slap on your G (rebuild engine or not) there's another G out there somewhere that can 'dust' you, and he is probably thinking the same thing about your ride, but the difference between him and you is he has the [class] to keep it to himself.

 

Wooooooow LOL ahhahahahaha

I didn't even go out of hands, you asked if you could do anything to compliment your SC, I said stage 4 max, but you wont get more then 340whp, threw a little bit of my opinion in there and thats it. And you go ballistic hahah wtf.....No Comment...It's a forum..

Talk about class and sh*t..I bet you I have more money then you anyways hahaha..wtf.....damn stubborn stillen people...i wasnt even trying to be negative towards u or trying to offend you on purpose HAHA look at the way this guy talking to me

You know what man, good luck....its a forum so what can I do..if you debated with me in real life like that the situation would go different foo...

 

Didn't read the entire thread so I am sorry if this has been covered...

Have you thought about upgrade to a better EMS, going with water injection and a more aggressive tune?

I wouldn't recommend anything aggressive on a piggy back EMS because that can lead to disaster real quick...

But a good standalone and properly set up water injection will net you some nice clean gains, with out the use of nitrous.

Hope this helps,

-George
GTM

 

^ Really, sweet - I'll definently look into that. Thanks man!

Thanks Guys!
-WoW

 

George i really hate to say this but everything just about possible has been tried with the stillen s/c.The simple fact is and it cannot be changed is the s/c is just to small.......damn it is the same one that chevy used on the cobalt.I tried talking to diferent nitrous makers about more power and they all agreed a couple times down the track and boom.
Granted a standalone with different injectors a meth injection system and whatnot would give you a few extra ponies but at what cost.In my book it wouldnt be even close to the extra cost involved for say 15-20 extra whp.
It is very simple with this setup the m-62 blower is just to small but if they could use the m-90 blower....well thats a different story but you will have to build the lower end first.There were talks that stillen tried the m-90 blower but it blew up all the stock blocks and they were afraid to release the unit due to people not heeding there advise to build first.
I had talked to Sam at stillen plenty of times and he had said that the m-90 project was out there but stillen was worried about legal probems with customers not building there engines first.
Talk had it at about 475rwhp and over 500rwt but it never happened.What a shame.

 

This is what you refer to as a 'little bit of opinion'? :

So if you want to break down (god this is a waste of my F* time) your tiny little opinion:

You are out right laughing and basically implying that I made a bad decision and wasted my money b/c you believe I could do just as good with Bolt-On's. If this is true - fine, but you can put it in a better way, too easy to come off like a jerk bro.

Then you threw out a Nopi Allstar comment about not complaining about getting dusted in a race. Here's a news flash Jumpin Jack Flash - I DON'T RACE.

Thanks Guys!
-WoW

 

Great background info. Thanks man.

So with G35Rider92649's comments and finding out that more have had these comments for other Stillen SC owners, someone just tell me (3) things:

1.) What does the "Average" G Coupe 6MT put down (WHP)
2.) What is the Average Gain for a STG2 6MT (WHP)
3.) What would be the Average Gain for a STOCK 6MT with bolt-ons (Motordyne spacer / Headers / High Flow Cats / Cat back exhaust / ECU Technosquare Flash) etc etc

What I'm wanting to finally get down to is the Stillen STG2 really a waste of money for the net gains I'll see (WHP)?

I'm not defending "how" G35Rider92649's went about telling me his little opinion, but am curious now to see if I should sell of the STG2 and go with Bolt-On's - Since I'm not looking for INSANE WHP like you would get with TT's or whatever.

Thanks Guys!
-WoW

 

Yes


Atleast you gained some info......no harm I dont know the answer for the 6mt bone stock, but I do know you should add some pulleys to your bolt on set up, i also heard good and bad stories on technosquare, so thats up to you

Yes you are correct, also To answer your question in general, wether you care or not, since you already got the Stg.2, just go with the stg.4 upgrade, you'll still have a blast, and stillens sc noise is one of my favorite noises also, but if you can get your moneys back for your stg.2, then do it, get all bolts ons, then get a ecu flash, you should be around 270-280whp..But Stg.3 or 4 is the way to go in my opinion...I only try to help, and yes those were my opinions and I did not tend to try to **** you off on purpose nor try to offend you in anyway, I just threw my opinion, I guess you didnt take it in a positive way at first....its all good..and if you dont race, thats fine too, no problems


I went through the same thing you did when I wanted to buy my stillen stg.3, accept I got much worser comments and even people calling me dumba$$ in real life No harm tho, I learned something new atleast

 

Well the OP seems set on using a Stillen supercharger so I just offered what I think would add a noticable gain, and still be reliable.

Nitrous is the easy way to add power, but I wouldn't run it on a stock block.

Since the Stillen SC is too small, it is operating out of its efficiency range, which means it is blowing hot air.

This is where the water injection comes into play, drastically lowering the IAT, and combustion chamber temps, while also raising the octane level of the fuel.

This allows for a more aggressive tune, which is where the power gain would come from, ability to run more timing and a leaner A/F ratio with W/I.

How much boost can you get out of this kit?

P.S. I am not recommending this kit (there are much better alternatives) but rather just satisfying the OP's requests for information to get more power out of THIS particular kit.

-George
GTM

 

Hi George! Great Info I miss my car..................