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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Hey Buddy! I miss my car too.......
 
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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I am not recommending this kit (there are much better alternatives)
Thanks for the great info George. What would be your recommendations for better alternatives?

Also, I guess you and G35Rider92649 could answer this for me as well (G35Rider92649 - we are cool - I didn't take so much what you said wrong, just how you played it out - is all)...

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If I personal find what I currently have "fast" (for me) what should I expect from the 'before' and 'after' snapshot of the G pre install and post? A massive difference in throttle response?, a good bit more TQ?, nice SC sound? What?

What I have currently is basically (almost) still bone stock except for the Stillen 'True Dual' cat back and Gordee's Grounding kit I have installed.

I personally think the coupe is ***** fast with the setup I have now. So....I'm hearing from you all that I should NEVER drive a TT coupe or whatever, b/c I'll never go back...I got that. LOL. BUT....I went with the STG2, b/c it *promised* big gains, but 'safe' and 'reliable' gains. Again, I want to keep this car (basically forever) so long that I'll be handing the keys to my son. He just turned 2 this past March 30th - if that gives you an idea of time.

I thought going with a "low boost" piece like the STG2 would be my best bet for OEM like operations + more power, but with the reliability of the VQ engine being intact, b/c it's not being pushed to it's limits and it's not re-built or whatever...

When it all comes down to the end result - could I really get MORE gains with the full allotment of 'bolt-ons' available for our coupe with ECU reflash? Could I really beat out the end result from a SC, with bolt ons??? If so that's nuts!

Does all this make sense? What I am after and why I purchased the STG2.

What all does the STG4 kit "upgrade" involve, and would it even be "Worth" it to a person like myself (knowing now what my overall goal is).

If any of this doesn't make sense or is unclear, I'll be more than happy to re-explain.

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Hey Buddy! I miss my car too.......
What happened to both of y'alls G's???
 
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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They are in the shop being built

Honestly, I would go with the HKS Supercharger kit.

It comes with a great EMS, (although still a piggy back) the components are top notch, its quiet, CARB approved, and will easily make over 340rwhp.

I would install this kit, tune it to a conservative number, and be happy.

Your car will still be very reliable, you will have future potential for more power, you will have a high quality kit, and not have to sport that ugly stillen hood
 
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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and not have to sport that ugly stillen hood
^ I actually like that hood. LOL.

I guess I'm in the wrong camp.

I'll install the STG2 - see what's involved with STG4 (if I even care to mess with that) and enjoy the kit.

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Yeah if you desire the Stillen, just get the stg.3 or 4, after you install stg.2, you'll be fine as for safety and reliable, even stg.4, it will be reliable. Our engines can take up to 400whp status on a stock block. I believe doesn't matter what kit you go with, even vortech, hks etc. If the kit has been proven working correctly, if you get it installed right and tune correctly 100% the first time, you won't run into any issues that will frustrate you big time. If you wish to stick with Stillen, go ahead, saying that you see that your car is already fast as is, and then you're going to have a blast with the SC

But if you manage to sell the stillen, look into a Vortech or HKS Not too pricey compare to the Stillen, probably almost around same price status...
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HomieG35
Not sure what the Stillen came with stock as far as computer fuel/timing control.

I know switching from the EU to the UTEC I gained like 15whp. Definately not something I spend a grand on, but the other added benefits of the UTEC like user friendliness and smoothness for stop and go traffic as far as idle and constant gas and braking. That being said, if it does come with the EU, then don't switch...
You probably just needed a tune.

OP:

headers, high flow cars, different ecu, meth injection, different plenum, better flowing exhaust, crazy tune, cams, etc.

if all else fails to TT like the rest of the SC guys usually do in the end lol
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
They are in the shop being built

Honestly, I would go with the HKS Supercharger kit.

It comes with a great EMS, (although still a piggy back) the components are top notch, its quiet, CARB approved, and will easily make over 340rwhp.

I would install this kit, tune it to a conservative number, and be happy.

Your car will still be very reliable, you will have future potential for more power, you will have a high quality kit, and not have to sport that ugly stillen hood

Aren't the vortech and procharger kits carb legal as well (they are for the other cars)? Further, you can't exactly up boost on the HKS system can you and the ECU locks so that it can only be tuned by the original tuner (or an HKS pro dealer). I love HKS products but for the OP the HKS system is expensive and totally not worth the swap IMO. If the OP goes a different route he should go TT and maintain low boost.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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Procharger is not carb legal
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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Yeah if you desire the Stillen, just get the stg.3 or 4, after you install stg.2, you'll be fine as for safety and reliable, even stg.4, it will be reliable. Our engines can take up to 400whp status on a stock block. I believe doesn't matter what kit you go with, even vortech, hks etc. If the kit has been proven working correctly, if you get it installed right and tune correctly 100% the first time, you won't run into any issues that will frustrate you big time. If you wish to stick with Stillen, go ahead, saying that you see that your car is already fast as is, and then you're going to have a blast with the SC

But if you manage to sell the stillen, look into a Vortech or HKS Not too pricey compare to the Stillen, probably almost around same price status...
^ Great info man - thanks!

I'll call Stillen and ask what's envolved with upgrading to STG4 - just for shi*ts and giggles. But yeah, (to me) IMHO, the car stock is quick. I rarely ever take the VDC off either - I guess I'll have to start doing that once the STG2 is installed!

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Old May 11, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Ok guys, I'm now TOTALLY torn on the FI choice I've made. Maybe you guys can help me out some on making the final decision?

I've talked with Sharif (great guy!!!) @ Forged Performance and have the choice of installing the Stillen STG2 kit I have or going with a Vortech system (or any other SC system). I do NOT want to go turbo (single or twin).

I have read some "Headache/Horror" stories about Vortech. Some members here seem to have gone through 2 or even 3 sets before getting a working unit - something about oil or a bearing issue? - Maybe some of you here can help me identify the "Pro's/Con's" to each SC available to me.

Please vote and give me as much detail as you possible (are willing) can give me to help me make a final decision.

Side Note:
This is where I'm "torn" between the two (Stillen/Vortech)

Stillen - Con's
Can not utilize a front sway bar
Can not install my CF 350Z 'type' engine cover
Can not leave my OEM hood on
I DO like the Stillen hood "hump" (as most don't), but not sure if the black hood is "in" anymore - I have a Brilliant Silver coupe.

Vortech - Con's
Seem to have issues with units - oil/bearings?
Does not have the low end TQ like the Stillen Unit has - only hits around 4K and pushes the engine more than I would like (w/ stock block)
Cost ($$$) for the kit and installation - I've already sunk $ into the Stillen kit w/ CF hood - and only have to pay for it's install

Thanks so MUCH guys!
-WoW

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Old May 11, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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I've seen a Stillen G coupe not using the Stillen hood.



 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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HKS Supercharger kit....
 
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Old May 11, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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HKS Supercharger FTW!!!


WhiteOnWheat, although I ditched my Procharger and went with the HKS, if you had a choice from stillen stg2 or vortech, I would go with for Vortech, but with the HKS around, why not got hks? I believe F.P is hks authorized correct? Shouldn't be any problems. I have heard many horror stories about vortech too, I mean people say the bearing issue has stopped, but not to my eyes, I still see it going bad and people sending it into for warranty non-stop, still a good system though in general. If you're going to go Stillen, just go stillen stg.4, if you're trying to stay in the carb legal area, then just get a hks, thats my opinion, good luck
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Ok, I'll have to inquire from Sharif about the HKS kit. What makes it so great? At least compared to Vortech?

Great info - thanks guys!

p.s. I HATE to ask, but what does "FTW" equate to?

Thanks Guys!
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