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APS G35 Twin Turbo System testing - awesome

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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questions for Peter:
how many psi was it pushing?
is there any other mod in that car?
is the car stick or auto?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Profile4
are the parts included in the kit under any type of warranty for craftsmanship or imperfections
All components in the APS Twin Turbo system are warranted to be free of any manufacturing defect.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by narkotic
Will this "G35 suppliment kit" be a part of the regular price, or will it be additional?
I assume at an additional cost (I have not been told anything different to date) though the G35 supplementary kit won't be very expensive in the overall big picture.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GXCLUSIV
Wow, the video of the G35 TT sounded very smooth and powerful. I like it. Love the sound of that BOV too. Great job APS! Damn ship those parts out now.
Thanks for those kind words and I can't wait to hear the engine and exhaust note when the guys fit the test pipes tomorrow..............I reckon it will sound awesome, music to my ears.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TINMAN
questions for Peter:
how many psi was it pushing?
is there any other mod in that car?
is the car stick or auto?
thanks
Approximately 8 PSI for the 91 octane map and 8.5 PSI on the 93 octane map.

The G35 is completely dead stock other than the APS TT system and APS TD exhaust system.

The G35 has a 6 speed stick trans.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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FINALLY I CAN GET THIS KIT!

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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Hmm.... Was kinda hoping #'s were little higher with 8psi and 91 octane. SSR had 402rwhp with 6.5psi and 91 octane, but had headers, etc., not quite stock. APS still looks more attractive though. Need to see more results from testing.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GXCLUSIV
Hmm.... Was kinda hoping #'s were little higher with 8psi and 91 octane. SSR had 402rwhp with 6.5psi and 91 octane, but had headers, etc., not quite stock. APS still looks more attractive though. Need to see more results from testing.
I’m fairly confident that you would find the numbers would be some 30 hp (or more) higher when run on an inertia type dyno as is commonly found in the US.

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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so what is the true potential of this kit i mean how far will these turbos go how easy would it be to attain 500rwhp? is this kit for more of a slap on a stock g and be happy or is this kit for someone who is planning on going all out turning up the boost! do you have any more vids of the car from 1st gear on? thanks we sure do appreciate all your help and question answering
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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I’m fairly confident that you would find the numbers would be some 30 hp (or more) higher when run on an inertia type dyno as is commonly found in the US.
sorry i don't mean to spoil the party or trying to raise the war here but from what i see Speed Force Racing kit using the same exact dyno machine as APS does.the first dyno is 402.1whp @ 6.5psi.the second one is belong to a member here (Kamal34) was clock at 410.8whp @ 7.2 and his car is stock except SFR header and Borla exhaust.
so let do the math 405.8whp @ 8.5psi on 93 octain VS 410.8whp @ 7.2psi on 91 octain.not to mention his car is auto.with 20% power loss,the number is 513hp at the plywheel.APS's car is manual with 15% power loss,the number is 474hp at the plywheel.
please correct me if i'm wrong.or i'm just seeing things here
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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From my research I have found that the APS is a better deal for the money, when compared to the SFR TT Setup. The APS includes EVERYTHING. The SFR leaves the customer to worry about a lot of the 'minor' details. The APS is also a bit cheaper, when compared to the ball bearing SFR TT setup.

I would be happy to lose a little effiencency to buy a COMPLETE kit. Also, you can't really compare dynos to dynos, at least not with A/F charts and timing charts. APS most likely has a fairly conservative tune, while SFR may be using a slightly more aggressive tune.

Also, the SFR kit uses stainless tubular headers which is a drawback, even thoug they offer a lifetime warranty on them (I'm sure they don't cover labor). The turbos sit super low making oil circulation more of a challange, and no oil pan is included with the kit. If SFR would drop the price of their ball bearing kit about $2K (thats approxamately how much more I was going to have to spend to make the kit work like the APS) I think it would be super popular, but since it is the MOST expensive kit and it isn't complete I think that is why you don't see too many of them around.

Just my two cents!

Oh, and I'm ordering my APS TT and exhaust from Ted at Scott Performance tonight after work!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Are both kits utilizing the same turbochargers? From what I have read, 1 psi of boost from turbo A is different from 1 psi of boost from turbo B, unless the compressor size, trim, blades, yadda yadda are exactly the same. I don't want to nag about boost per horsepower differences but the SFR kit and the APS TT kit are completely different regardless of which makes more power. Both kits will use different tuning maps which equals different amounts of power.

What I am impressed is the overall completeness of the APS kit all packaged into an affordable cost. The standard fuel system upgrade is an extra added security for the extra air. Does the SFR come with an upgraded fuel system along with the Split Fire engine management?

Question to APS:
Have you guys ever considered external wastegates? How efficient and reliable are the internal wastegates?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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APS listed at $7450 and a SFR group buy going on for $6599
one thing i want to make it clear that APS is a very good kit and the number are very impressive too.i just want to find out what's all the hype about.seem like everybody willing to give up their first born kid for this kit.if you done enough reseach about this kit and decided to go with it then congratulation.i realize that not everybody liking the same thing.if everyone like and drive a g35 then there will be no honda,toyota or dodge,ford...
i'm done here.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Tinman,

Is the $6599 SFR price for Ball bearing turbos? That was a $1000+ option when I was considering one. The lack of fuel upgrades and oil pan adds quite a bit more to the cost difference.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Steve, yes the #'s on G35 posted, does not match-up to the SSR posted results. However as Panda007 stated both kits utilize different turbos and other parts. APS car was stock and SSR car I dont believe was. The SSR $6499 GB, is not the ball bearing turbo and the piping material changed to cut cost from the higher advertised price. APS dyno#'s I believe were conservative, and I've seen higher #'s posted on my350z.com. SSR is an awesome kit and very complete as well. Price of SSR kit was not an issue, its very reliable as well, only reason that turned me away, is they are not looking to seek any carb testing. Yes alot of hype on APS, but reading results and comments on my350z looks promising, and those comments are from guys knowledgeable about this stuf and currently have different turbo set-up. Im still looking to see more APS results on a G35. If SSR seeked carb testing, that kit would have been in my car like last month.
 

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