I agree booger, the install job was fricking horrible... those backwarks-*** mechanics really screwed up my car..and didn't care.

However that doesn't change the fact that the power delivery and the noise of a blower plain out sucks, although..that is personal opinion and depends on the user.

 

I guess Im more inclined to put up with a little noise [ whistle ] and the smaller and more easily to over come problems that the SC has over the bigger and harder to figure out problems with a TT set . But if some one wanted to trade !!!!!.....lol

 

u make me not want to save up for a sc anymore

 

All someone has to do is go for a ride in a supercharged Z and a TT'd Z and there will be no doubt they would want the TT. The torque is what makes the driving fun. Getting thrown back when you hit the gas is what puts a smile on your face everytime. Without the torque, it's nowhere near as much fun. I think some people who are still deciding between TT and SC are just looking at the hp numbers and see comparable numbers. You guys have to look at the torque numbers and how soon it kicks in to realize how much fun the car is to drive. Don't just go by the hp numbers.

 

exactly kj.. I had a s/c in my G for well over a year and thought it was the $hit... then I got the twins... wow..what a difference..what made it even more obvious is when I drove my buddies G that I sold my s/c to... i was thinking..wow, night and day.. that thing is dying to make boost...

 

if you're inplying that a SC G/Z aren't fun to drive, you'd be wrong. Sure, the extra torque a ST or TT provide is cooler and def can be felt between the two, but if you're looking for fun and safety, a Vortech SC is def the answer, IMHO.

P.S. Come ride with me in my SC G sometime and you'll change your comment.

 

Randy, I was not implying SC Z's aren't fun to drive. I said that the TT's give you more torque and if you drove in both cars you would say the TT threw you back in your seat more. I'm in no way saying anything bad about SC's. BTW, I read the article of your car in Sport Z. Your car looks sick! Congrats.

 

after reading all of this, i'm still in luv w/ the vortech. ofcourse i would like to have the xtra torque of a ST or TT, but IMO the vortech is enough. now i just need some money to buy one

 

no prob...thanks for the kudos...

 

Narkotic dont you hate the drama of TT vs. the low maintance of s/c. smoke machine or what? haha

 

that was what I told myself when I bought my vortech......3 weeks after the install the car was back in the shop for a TT swap.

 

boost gauge and wideband 02 sensor.

BTW, I will have AEM wideband that I used for 1 month up for sale very soon. $325 plus shipping.

 

will that include the gauge?

 

The whole set up. I paid $495 for it.

 

i was simply stating that the headaches associated with troubleshooting a turbo are inherently greater than supercharger. many installers i've talked to will agree. There are many more components of a turbo system as compared to s/c, which means more variables to weed out of the problem. And I was stating this in regards to those who will be doing the work themselves. If you have the luxury of paying someone else to do the dirty work and have a spare car to use (and lets not forget the money), then by all means go turbo. For folks that live in the snowy areas that will use this as a daily driver, just keep in mind that the turbo and manifolds will get glowing red hott, so just remember what happens when you mix that with cold weather (cracks in teh manifolds, downpipes, shortened turbo life). something that is belt driven does not generate as much heat. in terms of maintenance, you are subjecting the oil to greater temps than usual, which means it will denature faster. do as u please with your maintenance schedule, but running on cooked oil can equal disaster for everything that it runs thru. Leaks have been the no.1 complaint that i have heard of. a small leak whether it is from one of the 2 manifolds, the gaskets between the block and manifolds, the gasket between the turbo and manifolds, the turbo and downpipes, the downpipes and exhaust and associated gaskets, will cause a major impairment in gas flow, which translates to turbulent flow, which is in turn inefficient, and therefore your turbo's efficiency has gone down. and lets not forget all those great TIG/MIG welds that are not impervious to breakage, especially on the lightweight manifolds they use. try replacing all those gaskets in the piping. lets not forget that the turbo is connected to the exhaust and motor, so all that torqueing will place additional strain on welds and joints where gaskets sit. all i'm sayin is that you are more likely to run into a multitude of problems, which may equal more headaches.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, Gurgen, I'm just stating my point of view based on my own and other's experiences. i agree with you gurgen, please do research before spending all that money (and be prepared to spend way more than you project). for sure, if all variables were constant, i was born with a silver spoon in my mouth, and it was 80 degrees and sunny all year round, i'd be runnin a fully built turbocharged beast! (the mercedes benz twin turbo that is =) ).