Cool. Good luck and keep up posted.

 

Well Im running 375 rwhp and my car feels very safe. My tunner said I have a VERY safe tune! He said he could had adjusted the timing and made about another 35 hp but he didnt want me to blow my motor anytime soon. He also said if it wasnt for the cali gas he could have made more hp. The only problem Ive had with the system is the Vortech SS box. There would be times that I would go into boost and it felt like my car hit a wall! It only happened every once in a while. I just sent the box into Vortech for testing and the box was bad. They sent me a new one free of charge.
Those of you that are worried about the TQ with this system are crazy. My car pulls like a freight train! The power has to be able to get to the ground anyway!

 

Oh one more thing. The Vortech system is pretty easy to install and a do it yourself guy could save big bux! I have 4500.00 into my Vortech including a extra harness. What other FI system will get you this much HP for this much money?

 

turbonetics. avalon racing has a sale right now for $4325 and you won't have to pay to tune the kit like you did with your vortech. I am sure you could install the turbonetics on your own also.

 

Just curious but does anyone have any data on how many G35/350z engines have been blown by turbos versus super chargers? I'm guessing no, otherwise there wouldn't be an argument here now would there. :-)

I've been reading these and other forums for a long time now and it seems to me that turbos blow way more engines!! Admittedly I have no explicit data, this is just how it seems to me.

 

I am sure it does, as it is tons faster than a stock NA car. But if you think a Vortech car pulls like a freight train, you should try my, or any other TT car, then you WILL be able to tell the difference.

 

Yes turbos did blow away more engines. But one needs to look for reasons for this to make it a convincing argument. Hence this discussion.

 

Seems like the main reasons I've heard thus far are tuning/install. Which tells me that either turbos are hard to install and tune properly or there just isn't enough qualified installers and tuners out there. Either way, it seems if my main concern is going FI with the least amount of engine blowing risk, I'd go super charger. Again, I don't know the technical ins and outs like you do Gurgen but so far I haven't seen a convincing argument that going turbo is just as safe as going supercharger.

Granted if I had lots of money I'd go twin turbo all the way, be ****** with blown engines!!!! :-)

 

I have and Ive owned both. I rode in a APS Z about a month ago. It had cams and exhaust. It was FAST! But about 10min later I rode in a Vortech Z that had exhaust and cams. The Z had 450hp the G had 425hp. They both felt the same to me. When we got back to the shop I talked to both owners. They said in a race they were pretty even. Thats when I dropped the idea of switching to the APS kit. PLUS the Vortech kit just got its cert. Me being in cali that BIG!

 

Hey Steve, you mean the Vortech is now Cali legal, if so how do we get the cert. so when I get pulled over I can say it is all on the up and up.

 

dude.. i was set on the aps tt then i wanted the vortech now i might want the aps s/t or maybe still the vortech.. so i came up with a solution im gonna wait out the drama so i can make my own choice later after i hear whats going on. .but until then i just got my nitrous kit with every little toy i could find.. im gonna spray for now..

 

Hey G352NV are you serious? The Vortech got approved? Wow if So thats pretty good news. 3 days left.... Till I get mine.

 

trying to stay on topic with this - what are the common issues with the vortech sc?
so far i've got,
#1 loose belts (need to be tightened or replaced soon after install with gates, or just use gates to begin with - part no???)
#2 loose cogs
#3 something about breaking the maf sensor because something got loose.
#4 dust coming from somewhere???
#5 makes a lot of noise when not spooling up

the big one is - how reliable is the unit? the actual supercharger itself. is it reliable? i don't want to loose a bearing and have it blow up my engine.

the pro's i got from this thread -
#1 easy to install, tune, and maintain
#2 do not need to replace hood
#3 inexpensive compared to other f/i applications
#4 carb cert (don't care about that)

is there anything else we, as possibly future vortech owners should be concerned with?

 

The reasons I got rid of my Vortech other than I wanted more power were:

1. Embarrassing belt squeal. And yes I had the gates belts and it was tight. It would squeal on a cold start up and to me that was just to damn embarrassing.

2. At idle when the car would dip below 600 RPMS the gears inside the blower (or whatever it was) would make loud rattling noises. I had it checked out several times and I was told this is normal for sc's. When the idle was past 600 RPMS I never got this sound. Again just to embracing for these types of noises to come from the engine bay of an almost $40K IMO.

3. Lack of torque. My car with the Vortech was fast, but because of the lack of tq (I dyno'ed 305 ft/lb tq) it did not feel fast.

4. No room to grow. Once you got all the bolts on and the larger pulley there is really nothing else you can do it make more power. I thought I would be happy with just under 400whp, but once I felt the power I immediately wanted more.

 

Yes the Vortech got approved. They are waiting for the cert stickers.
belt squeal is caused from a loose belt. My squealed until I adjusted the belt.
Yes there is a rattle when the RPM's dip. Just have your RPM's raised.
Lack of TQ? I just had a tune and had 360lbs of TQ. Check this, my car has 20's and from a roll on in 1st gear RPM's at 1500 I can hit just the gas and break em loose all the way through 3rd gear. Thats enough for me!
My system is stock and Im at 378 rwhp on a VERY safe tune. If I were to adjust the timing and add the pulley I would be well over 400rwhp. For me thats enough!