I doubt it but I saw my first E85 pump today in Houston. $2.20 a gal was better than the price of premium!

 

No.......

 

Like I said

It owuld be nice though.

 

For cars that can run on E85, it is cheaper but MPG is usually worse, from what I understand, so money-wise it comes out even...

 

even if it did, the price savings would probably be offset by the significantly lower fuel economy you would get due to the inherently lower energy content of the ethanol

 

Why would it be nice? You get worse gas mileage. About 20% worse. And worse performance.

Not seeing the "nice" thing about it.

 

You get BETTER performance, not worse. It has a higher octane rating.

"Regular unleaded gasoline has an octane rating of 87; E85 has an octane rating ranging from 100-105 making it a high performance fuel. Ford FFVs produce a 5% horsepower gain when using E85."
http://www.agriculture.state.ia.us/e85q&a.html

 

i was reading somewhere if a modified RX-7 that was running e-85 and it was running almost 85WHP more compared to the 93 octane...

-Sean

 

You do realize that you have to build the motor to accomodate the higher octane right?

But go ahead and keep thinking just putting in E85 will increase your proformance.

 

u get 2 save da world tho guyz

 

We already went over this, the rx-7 made 85 more hp because they were able to turn up the boost levels due to the higher octane rating, the e85 didn't add the hp by itself, it intrinsically has a lower energy content because of the oxygen bonds within the short chained ethanol groups which yield signigicantly less power. Without a way to tune for the higher octane, like on most NA cars, you will lose significant HP compared to normal 93.

 

Our cars aren't FFV's though, and don't have different timing/fuel maps for different fuels, so we would see a significant decrease in power, not a gain, once again ethanol has a much lower BTU content than gasoline due to the oxygen bonds and short chained hydrocarbons present.

 

It arguably takes more energy input/makes more pollution to make e85 than to refine normal gasoline, especially now with the overloading of the market which stretches the corn supply thin, and leads to more inefficient production. So you aren't saving the world in any sense really.

 

But Bush is able to save the American farmer though.

 

Yes, i remember, but 100-105 octane racing fuels cost about 7 dollars a gallon based on where you get it. You can buy e-85 for half of that and be able to turn up the boost just as much. Most NA cars also do not run better because of the higher octane...high compression cars have to run higher octane to prevent engine knock.

But yes i do remember going over it, but i think what the OP was trying to say is that it is capable of running over 100 octane for about 1/3 of the price.

Most people do not daily drive on 105 octane it is only used at race tracks (hence race fuel). So for 1/3 of the price i could put 10 dollars worth of e-85 in my car rather than having to put 30 dollars in and use the same amount for just the track. (thats if my car was capable of running it)

-Sean