too much power for a 16 year old?
Im 19 and just got my G.... i think a 16 yearold definently needs a few years with a cheaper, slower, but still safe car... my first car was a jettta and it was great to learn on.... now after 3 years of tickets wrecks and mistakes.... i now am able to handle my G
Absolutely to much power for most every 16 y/o male. I had an 105hp 5MT 86 Accord (a low 17 second car) back when I started driving in the late 1980s and I did some really stupid stuff in that car. I could only imagine what I would have done with a far more powerful car like a mid 13 to mid 14 second car like a G35. It is rare that a 16-18 y/o male is going to be a great driver and make wise decisions behind the wheel. The reality is young adults have absolutely no idea of the implications of thier actions behind the wheel. Giving a kid a car is like trusting them with a gun. Giving a kid a fast car is like trusting them with a loaded gun. Chances are it will end badly.
When my son turns 16, I'm going to teach him how to control slides, panic stops, wet and snow driving, what following too closely is, and will probably take him to the strip and auto-x so that he can get the speed out of his system in a legal way.
When my son turns 16, I'm going to teach him how to control slides, panic stops, wet and snow driving, what following too closely is, and will probably take him to the strip and auto-x so that he can get the speed out of his system in a legal way.
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Originally Posted by GreyGoose35
Im 19 and just got my G.... i think a 16 yearold definently needs a few years with a cheaper, slower, but still safe car... my first car was a jettta and it was great to learn on.... now after 3 years of tickets wrecks and mistakes.... i now am able to handle my G
yea cause i had to start on a ford taurus, and i remeber when jus a mustang was too powerful. the other day i drove the new 350z and got a rush
but im 18 and idk if i can handle a g35....but i never got a ticket so ima get one after my af basic training...plus even with my semi good drivin record they were tryin to quote me $845 in insurance a month!!!lucky i got understandin parents to b covered under. only $65 a month....More money 2 mod with when i get back from iraq
but im 18 and idk if i can handle a g35....but i never got a ticket so ima get one after my af basic training...plus even with my semi good drivin record they were tryin to quote me $845 in insurance a month!!!lucky i got understandin parents to b covered under. only $65 a month....More money 2 mod with when i get back from iraq
Originally Posted by Skaterbasist
Thats funny I was going 145 two weeks ago...
Its fast if you wanna make it fast by pushing it. Personally, I dont think any 16 year old should be learning and driving on this car.
I first started driving a sh!tty white mini-van
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Its fast if you wanna make it fast by pushing it. Personally, I dont think any 16 year old should be learning and driving on this car.
I first started driving a sh!tty white mini-van
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everyone makes mistakes, whether they are 16 or 40. everyone gets the urge to go fast, and while a 16 year old may think they know what they're doing, they don't have enough experience, thought capacity, or realize the consequences as much as someone who is more mature. At 17 yrs of age, I feel like I am competent enough to drive a G LOL it doesn't matter your age really, I do agree that younger kids are irresponsible and drive fast (many of my friends are this way, and I occasionally get on it) but not everyone will react the same way in front of a powerful car.. some react like idiots behind the wheel of a 20 yr old car, so they definitely don't need to be driving a G, but others take more responsibility and drive carefully... there are plenty of accidents happening to older folks as well
^I agree.
To people like Dave B and others who say they did all sorts of stupid sh**, i have yet to do somthing dumb in my car other than the occasional give it the groceries.
I dont drift it (19" tires are to damn expensive) i dont slam on my breaks (also to expensive) and i dont go rally racing it or slam it into curbs ect.
I guess im just lucky. Only had 1 accident and thats when i rearended a lady the summer i got my licence. Only got 1 ticket, and that was for 70 in a 55, also, the summer i got my licence (its now off my record as well btw) and none of this happened in the G either.
Honestly, i really dont think the G is all that powerful. If i give it the beans, my backend isnt all over the road. It doesnt peel out everywhere or anything.
Its just an automatic, near-luxo sedan... what i like and fits my style..
To people like Dave B and others who say they did all sorts of stupid sh**, i have yet to do somthing dumb in my car other than the occasional give it the groceries.
I dont drift it (19" tires are to damn expensive) i dont slam on my breaks (also to expensive) and i dont go rally racing it or slam it into curbs ect.
I guess im just lucky. Only had 1 accident and thats when i rearended a lady the summer i got my licence. Only got 1 ticket, and that was for 70 in a 55, also, the summer i got my licence (its now off my record as well btw) and none of this happened in the G either.
Honestly, i really dont think the G is all that powerful. If i give it the beans, my backend isnt all over the road. It doesnt peel out everywhere or anything.
Its just an automatic, near-luxo sedan... what i like and fits my style..
This just in according to the US DOT Federal Highway Administration and the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration):
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/810630.PDF
There are nearly 200 million licensed drivers in the U.S.
Drivers under 20 years of age make up only 6% of the total number of licensed drivers in the U.S.
Yet they are involved in or cause 20% of all fatal traffic accidents.
Teen drivers aged 18 and under are 200-300% as likely to be involved in or contribute to fatal injuries in motor vehicle accidents as drivers over 25.
This despite the fact that teens on average drive half the annual miles that drivers between 25-60 (working age) do.
There is a reason that even a highly educated and trained doctor doesn't start performing complicated surgeries alone upon receiving their med school diplomas and why an attorney doesn't start out prosecuting a major trial right out of law school.
That reason is cognitive/ emotional development - the ability to use reason (rather than sensory and pure emotion) along with experience and training to perform complex tasks. It is part of the process of reducing risk of harm or injury (whether bodily or financial) to others if not ourselves.
I respectfully submit that safely driving a nearly 300 bhp 3400 lb machine is a complex task that requires plenty of experience and cognitive/ emotional development, the level of which most 16 year olds have not fully reached.
The G35 and its high performance capabilities is that much more likely to promote riskier high speed driving than would otherwise occur when driving less performance oriented vehicles.
Hasn't anyone here seen the story about the 5 teens killed earlier this year while trying to max out their parent's BMW M5 on a airplane runway in actor John Travolta's subdivision in Florida? That had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that an 18 year old was driving a 500 hp M5?
http://www.ocala.com/article/2008012...0355/1025/NEWS
Ironically members of a BMW enthusiast thread WARNED the very teen driver that he was likely too inexperienced to safely operate his Dad's car at its limits. Apparently that teen's father didn't have the cognitive development to keep the keys of the M5 away from his son.
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/810630.PDF
There are nearly 200 million licensed drivers in the U.S.
Drivers under 20 years of age make up only 6% of the total number of licensed drivers in the U.S.
Yet they are involved in or cause 20% of all fatal traffic accidents.
Teen drivers aged 18 and under are 200-300% as likely to be involved in or contribute to fatal injuries in motor vehicle accidents as drivers over 25.
This despite the fact that teens on average drive half the annual miles that drivers between 25-60 (working age) do.
There is a reason that even a highly educated and trained doctor doesn't start performing complicated surgeries alone upon receiving their med school diplomas and why an attorney doesn't start out prosecuting a major trial right out of law school.
That reason is cognitive/ emotional development - the ability to use reason (rather than sensory and pure emotion) along with experience and training to perform complex tasks. It is part of the process of reducing risk of harm or injury (whether bodily or financial) to others if not ourselves.
I respectfully submit that safely driving a nearly 300 bhp 3400 lb machine is a complex task that requires plenty of experience and cognitive/ emotional development, the level of which most 16 year olds have not fully reached.
The G35 and its high performance capabilities is that much more likely to promote riskier high speed driving than would otherwise occur when driving less performance oriented vehicles.
Hasn't anyone here seen the story about the 5 teens killed earlier this year while trying to max out their parent's BMW M5 on a airplane runway in actor John Travolta's subdivision in Florida? That had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that an 18 year old was driving a 500 hp M5?
http://www.ocala.com/article/2008012...0355/1025/NEWS
Ironically members of a BMW enthusiast thread WARNED the very teen driver that he was likely too inexperienced to safely operate his Dad's car at its limits. Apparently that teen's father didn't have the cognitive development to keep the keys of the M5 away from his son.
Last edited by athens; Oct 28, 2008 at 09:41 PM.
If you can handle a G, more power to you; while I agree that it's not a V8 torque monster, it still has too much power to learn on.
My kids will have a nice, safe, low tq/hp car to learn to drive. Once they've mastered that, we can move on to something more...interesting.
My kids will have a nice, safe, low tq/hp car to learn to drive. Once they've mastered that, we can move on to something more...interesting.
hmmm... I am very torn on this one, being a 17 year old I definitely see how apealing a g is to a kid my age, however, for a first Car, I would have to say get a beater. I had THE worst luck with my first car (95 buick regal cost me 1500) Got into 2 accidents within 2 weeks, both not my fault, however it really shook me up and made me a better driver for it(more aware I would say). After that I drove the car for another 4 months, all beat up, no accidents, then I bought the g and have been SUCH a careful driver. In all honesty it depends on the kid and if it is their first car.
just my 2 cents
just my 2 cents
shiit at 16 i was walking to the bus stop
17 finally upgraded to a 1982 lincoln town car
then a 94 accord then 2001 acura cl-s then finall the 04 G i woulda done some STUPID shyt with the G if i was 16... hell i still hit it a couple times now
17 finally upgraded to a 1982 lincoln town car
then a 94 accord then 2001 acura cl-s then finall the 04 G i woulda done some STUPID shyt with the G if i was 16... hell i still hit it a couple times now
All depends on the kid, and im sticking to that.
I grew up driving a 2000 Silverado, 03 Trailblazer and an 04 G35X. So i got a mix of things.
The week i got my permit (age 15) i was towing our boat 50 miles, through towns back to our house from storage.
Id like to see most 15 year olds attempt that in a full size pickup with a 20foot boot behind, in traffic.
Not bragging, but id say i probably gained a bit more experience from my parents than a majority of kids do during the learning stages. (no, this does not mean i drive like an idiot because im cocky)
Cars kind of revolved around my family though, and i have been fasinated with driving and cars since i was 2 years old. My dad would take me to the country to drive on the dirt roads when i was 10 years old and i used to always wash the cars because that meant i got to move them around on the driveway.
I just cant get enough of it. It is to much fun. And i dont care if your car is a 94 Buick Park Avenue, i'll drive it over my car for a day just to experience different cars.
I grew up driving a 2000 Silverado, 03 Trailblazer and an 04 G35X. So i got a mix of things.
The week i got my permit (age 15) i was towing our boat 50 miles, through towns back to our house from storage.
Id like to see most 15 year olds attempt that in a full size pickup with a 20foot boot behind, in traffic.
Not bragging, but id say i probably gained a bit more experience from my parents than a majority of kids do during the learning stages. (no, this does not mean i drive like an idiot because im cocky)
Cars kind of revolved around my family though, and i have been fasinated with driving and cars since i was 2 years old. My dad would take me to the country to drive on the dirt roads when i was 10 years old and i used to always wash the cars because that meant i got to move them around on the driveway.
I just cant get enough of it. It is to much fun. And i dont care if your car is a 94 Buick Park Avenue, i'll drive it over my car for a day just to experience different cars.





