100 octane gas on stock engine
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100 octane gas on stock engine
Hello all,
Do any of you know if putting 100 octane gas may hurt my engine. I may want to do it once just to get a cheap thrill out of my car. The Moroso speedway is on my way to work (well, almost) and they have 100 octane there. I thought I check before I do something potentially stupid.
Do any of you know if putting 100 octane gas may hurt my engine. I may want to do it once just to get a cheap thrill out of my car. The Moroso speedway is on my way to work (well, almost) and they have 100 octane there. I thought I check before I do something potentially stupid.
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haha, that reminds me.
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
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Originally Posted by AzianMakaveli
haha, that reminds me.
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
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Originally Posted by AzianMakaveli
haha, that reminds me.
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
on my way to Los Angeles, i was running on empty and i wanted to try that 100 octane gas at the 76 Gas station over by Calabasas. I was going to fill about 5 gallons 100 and the rest 91. well, as i was fueling the 100, a guy comes up to me and starts talking to me about my car and how nice it was and etc... next thing i knew it... :CLICK: turn around, full tank of 100 octane at about 70 bucks. WTF!!! dammlt... lol
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To get the thrill you would also have to increase your compression in some way to take advantage of the low volatility of the fuel. Check the compression ratios of some single engine private planes and you will understand why aviation fuel is high octane.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
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Originally Posted by The_Scooch
To get the thrill you would also have to increase your compression in some way to take advantage of the low volatility of the fuel. Check the compression ratios of some single engine private planes and you will understand why aviation fuel is high octane.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
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Originally Posted by The_Scooch
To get the thrill you would also have to increase your compression in some way to take advantage of the low volatility of the fuel. Check the compression ratios of some single engine private planes and you will understand why aviation fuel is high octane.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
The common misconception is that "super" or "premium" will make the car more powerful. It doesn't. In fact, the lower the octane number, the more volatile the fuel and thus, the faster and more powerful burn rate.
All that said, the above is contingent on the compression ratio of the engine, either by piston crown, FI, cam and valve size and timing, etc or all in combination. High compression needs high octane to mitigate the pressure and vice versa for lower compression. Finding the perfect balance is really the answer. You want the fuel to burn, not explode.
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
what octane gas do u put in ur car?
You could go lower but and the engine's ECU coupled to the detonation sensors will compensate by retarding the timing and thus, decreasing the power output in favor of protection.
You could take advantage of 100 octane by reflashing the ECU to a more aggressive timing curve (advanced). You would still want to strike a good balance because even with the right fuel, there is such a thing as too much advance. I bet the right balance could yield another 20 ponies or so but then you would be stuck with using that fuel.
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