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Originally Posted by CERTAUTOG35
well our cars are by no means tractor trailers but most big rigs dont use the clutch very often
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Originally Posted by SeZkI
I always wondered if not using your clutch was truly as bad as everyone says it is. I sometimes just slightly pull the gears from first and slowly (without much force at all probably about the same as when i hold the clutch down) into second gear, theres really no big of a jolt, or a shake, it seems as if you push the clutched down and you let go of it slowly. Im not really familiar with how a clutch and engine work hand in hand. I just have an idea of a plate and gears hah, but is it really that bad for you to change gears without clutch (without using a lot of force)?
Originally Posted by Otacon132
does anyone know if its harmful to take the car out of gear without the clutch? ive been doing this for over a year now and never had a problem, ive gotten so used to the car that it bassically pops out without giving it much of a tap at all. (as long as you hardly blip the throttle just right)
that is BAD. you will grind the teeth of the gears down very quickly. the reason it does what it does now for you is because they are worn down. you'll basically need a new transmission pretty soon if u keep that up
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Originally Posted by filanj
that is BAD. you will grind the teeth of the gears down very quickly. the reason it does what it does now for you is because they are worn down. you'll basically need a new transmission pretty soon if u keep that up
Originally Posted by filanj
that is BAD. you will grind the teeth of the gears down very quickly. the reason it does what it does now for you is because they are worn down. you'll basically need a new transmission pretty soon if u keep that up
let me explain.....If you match the rpms exactly, the SLIGHTEST tug on the shifter will pull it out of gear, without ANY force at all....even just poking it with a finger... nothing is heard, nothing is felt, rpms drop to idle as normal.
I have tried this in a brand new G, old cars, new cars.....every stickshift ive tried, ive done this out of habbit and same story for all, it just falls out without any force..........mechanic friend of mine says theres no problem doing that, im only just trying to confirm this.....
are you sure your positive?
Originally Posted by Otacon132
let me explain.....If you match the rpms exactly, the SLIGHTEST tug on the shifter will pull it out of gear, without ANY force at all....even just poking it with a finger... nothing is heard, nothing is felt, rpms drop to idle as normal.
I have tried this in a brand new G, old cars, new cars.....every stickshift ive tried, ive done this out of habbit and same story for all, it just falls out without any force..........mechanic friend of mine says theres no problem doing that, im only just trying to confirm this.....
are you sure your positive?
I have tried this in a brand new G, old cars, new cars.....every stickshift ive tried, ive done this out of habbit and same story for all, it just falls out without any force..........mechanic friend of mine says theres no problem doing that, im only just trying to confirm this.....
are you sure your positive?
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here is a little lesson for the newbies to the manual transmission world:
n00bie, in this case, can mean you've driven countless cars with manual transmissions, but somehow never figured out how it actually works. Don't worry, it happens to a lot of guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission
Our transmissions are fairly modern, synchronized manual transmissions. Yes, you can change gears safely without using the clutch. Is it advisable? That depends on just how well you know the shifting points of your car. It is actually HARDER to do safely in a synchronized tranny car, as the synchros will disguise just how badly you did (since they will attempt to mediate the shift when the revs are not matching properly and no clutch is used... the synchros effectively act as the clutch does, but they are much less durable). If you didn't have synchros, it would let you know how much you suck by grinding shuddering. But you would also have the opportunity to learn... you don't get quite the experience in a synchro equipped tranny.
so, in a way, the noobs are right in that you would destroy the synchros without even knowing it. But you wouldn't ruin the transmission, per se.
You really wouldn't know these things unless you've driven an old truck or car with a funky manual, or as theknite said, a rig with 18 gears.
n00bie, in this case, can mean you've driven countless cars with manual transmissions, but somehow never figured out how it actually works. Don't worry, it happens to a lot of guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission
Our transmissions are fairly modern, synchronized manual transmissions. Yes, you can change gears safely without using the clutch. Is it advisable? That depends on just how well you know the shifting points of your car. It is actually HARDER to do safely in a synchronized tranny car, as the synchros will disguise just how badly you did (since they will attempt to mediate the shift when the revs are not matching properly and no clutch is used... the synchros effectively act as the clutch does, but they are much less durable). If you didn't have synchros, it would let you know how much you suck by grinding shuddering. But you would also have the opportunity to learn... you don't get quite the experience in a synchro equipped tranny.
so, in a way, the noobs are right in that you would destroy the synchros without even knowing it. But you wouldn't ruin the transmission, per se.
You really wouldn't know these things unless you've driven an old truck or car with a funky manual, or as theknite said, a rig with 18 gears.
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