Good as M3???
#61
Originally Posted by Nismo G
So please tell me that saying a stock g35 being a mid 14 second car isnt a fair assumption. Even if MSN says the g35 has slower numbers than what you really think it is then assume the same thing for the m3 and 645I. All things will stay constant. Im sure they test their cars in the same locations so if the g35 is really .2 seconds faster than what they say it is then just take .2 seconds off of the m3 and 645I.
Your post just blows my mind. Its rediculous actually.
-Sean
Last edited by limeg35; 01-10-2008 at 11:40 PM.
#62
Originally Posted by doctorG
Well is the OP talking about Freeway racing or 1/4 racing? I've been to the tracks on several occasions. Not once have I've seen a G35 winning a race.
Maybe it's because the track was only 1/8 of a mile long? This was at Irwindale. And I think it was the same Black supercharge G in the link above.
The G sounded horrible. It even lost to a little CRX but 4 car length. haha.
Maybe it's because the track was only 1/8 of a mile long? This was at Irwindale. And I think it was the same Black supercharge G in the link above.
The G sounded horrible. It even lost to a little CRX but 4 car length. haha.
On that note I am challenging anyone with E46 M3 have a friendly run and show the whole comunity that perfectly driven M3 is only 1.5 cars faster till 100mph. I have raced 7 different E46 M3s and only lost 1, YES only 1. Not to mentioned one of them got smoked in the canyons and at the end was telling me, "damn that 4 door handles very good, what can i do to improve the handling of my M". I told him learn how to drive. Just like magazine racers on this fukin board.
#64
Originally Posted by limeg35
Wanna cookie for being such excellent driver?
#65
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
No but when i come up to drive on G16/G17 road and stay there for couple of nights, i would love to see what ur M3 is really capable of besides those magazine numbers that u and a lots of noobs keep relying on.
I have been on plenty of drives with Gs and few other much more expensive cars to know that it mostly depends on the driver and not the car itself.
By the way, I thoguht someone is "yawn" at this thread back in like post number 9...
Last edited by limeg35; 01-11-2008 at 12:59 AM.
#66
Dude, I use to think the G "was" a fast car, on paper. But after owning one, I came to accepting the fact that our cars aren't made for the tracks.
Again, I havn't seen a G35 go faster then mid 12's on the 1/4mile... And these are TT G's that are running MID 12's... Which is lame.
Considering a souped up Honda can run in the low 9's...
But again, I have a G. And why? Because I like the way it looks. Enough said..
Again, I havn't seen a G35 go faster then mid 12's on the 1/4mile... And these are TT G's that are running MID 12's... Which is lame.
Considering a souped up Honda can run in the low 9's...
But again, I have a G. And why? Because I like the way it looks. Enough said..
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
hey kiddo, bring ur dads s2k or in this case the M3 and come get whooping from this G.
On that note I am challenging anyone with E46 M3 have a friendly run and show the whole comunity that perfectly driven M3 is only 1.5 cars faster till 100mph. I have raced 7 different E46 M3s and only lost 1, YES only 1. Not to mentioned one of them got smoked in the canyons and at the end was telling me, "damn that 4 door handles very good, what can i do to improve the handling of my M". I told him learn how to drive. Just like magazine racers on this fukin board.
On that note I am challenging anyone with E46 M3 have a friendly run and show the whole comunity that perfectly driven M3 is only 1.5 cars faster till 100mph. I have raced 7 different E46 M3s and only lost 1, YES only 1. Not to mentioned one of them got smoked in the canyons and at the end was telling me, "damn that 4 door handles very good, what can i do to improve the handling of my M". I told him learn how to drive. Just like magazine racers on this fukin board.
#67
Originally Posted by limeg35
Hehehe...since when I relying on Mag's numbers? cus I know exactly how fast M is, I usually stay neutral on thses type of threads ...Where is G16/17 at?
I have been on plenty of drives with Gs and few other much more expensive cars to know that it mostly depends on the driver and not the car itself.
I have been on plenty of drives with Gs and few other much more expensive cars to know that it mostly depends on the driver and not the car itself.
G16/G17 road is considered one of the best roads in US. I haven't taken that road but I have heard people talking about them. It is near Salinas/Monetrey, CA. I heard its about 100 miles twisties.
#68
Originally Posted by doctorG
Dude, I use to think the G "was" a fast car, on paper. But after owning one, I came to accepting the fact that our cars aren't made for the tracks.
Again, I havn't seen a G35 go faster then mid 12's on the 1/4mile... And these are TT G's that are running MID 12's... Which is lame.
Considering a souped up Honda can run in the low 9's...
But again, I have a G. And why? Because I like the way it looks. Enough said..
Again, I havn't seen a G35 go faster then mid 12's on the 1/4mile... And these are TT G's that are running MID 12's... Which is lame.
Considering a souped up Honda can run in the low 9's...
But again, I have a G. And why? Because I like the way it looks. Enough said..
#69
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
LMAO on the pic.
G16/G17 road is considered one of the best roads in US. I haven't taken that road but I have heard people talking about them. It is near Salinas/Monetrey, CA. I heard its about 100 miles twisties.
G16/G17 road is considered one of the best roads in US. I haven't taken that road but I have heard people talking about them. It is near Salinas/Monetrey, CA. I heard its about 100 miles twisties.
a go kart with 50 hp motor will run 6 second 1/4 mile, i dont see ur stupid point.
#70
i actually raced my bro's m3 multiple times when he got it, and got beat every time by about a car's (maybe more, 1.5??) length (stopped about 60-70ish mph)...
it's too bad that our cars are not for racing. actually i don't care about that, i just wanna feel the kick, the power, you know, that pull when you press that gas pedal.
it's too bad that our cars are not for racing. actually i don't care about that, i just wanna feel the kick, the power, you know, that pull when you press that gas pedal.
#71
Originally Posted by MAZyar
What's the cheapest way to get my 04 Coupe to be as fast (or faster) and good handling as M3?
Is it possible?
What upgrades?
Is it possible?
What upgrades?
) Fast
) RELIABLE
) CHEAP
You can only pick 2...
Fast and Reliable but won't be cheap.
Fast and Cheap but it won't be reliable
Reliable and Cheap but it wont be fast
#72
Why is the G always such an underdog? A Stock G is great mix of price, luxury, and power. It's by no means a Z06, but who ever expected it to be?
There are so many relatively cheap mods that can be added to get that holy grail, kick in the low end and mid range. People need to spend a lot more time reading through all of our experiences (that's what makes these sites so great, you can LEARN from our successes and failures). Before I joined the site, I spent a good two months reading as much as I possibly could, seeing what mods were available, and the experiences people had with them, etc.
If you bone stock guys want some nice kick in the low end and mid range, get a replacement air filter, 5/16" Motordyne plenum spacer, high flow cats, and a UTEC tuned by a professional shop (specifically request a tune for low end and mid range torque). You can install the filter and spacer yourself, and an honest shop should charge you around 1.5 hours for the cats (or you could do these yourself too), and maybe $300-400 for the tune. We're talking around $2000 total, you can probably do better if you talk to the guys at Performance Factory, they have insanely cheap prices on most products. With that set up, I can almost guarantee that you will gain at least 20 ft-lbs (at the wheels!!!) in the low to mid range (I have dynos if you want me to prove it). You will feel the kick - no more lag in that range.
P.S. These items address the major concessions in the G's design. The plenum spacer was developed by an ex rocket scientist (seriously) to address restrictive factory airflow post throttle body, and high flow cats address one of the most restrictive elements on the exhaust side. The result is air going in more quickly and exhaust coming out more quickly. The UTEC & tune will tweak fuel and ignition timing to optimize the engine's use of the greater gas throughput.
There are so many relatively cheap mods that can be added to get that holy grail, kick in the low end and mid range. People need to spend a lot more time reading through all of our experiences (that's what makes these sites so great, you can LEARN from our successes and failures). Before I joined the site, I spent a good two months reading as much as I possibly could, seeing what mods were available, and the experiences people had with them, etc.
If you bone stock guys want some nice kick in the low end and mid range, get a replacement air filter, 5/16" Motordyne plenum spacer, high flow cats, and a UTEC tuned by a professional shop (specifically request a tune for low end and mid range torque). You can install the filter and spacer yourself, and an honest shop should charge you around 1.5 hours for the cats (or you could do these yourself too), and maybe $300-400 for the tune. We're talking around $2000 total, you can probably do better if you talk to the guys at Performance Factory, they have insanely cheap prices on most products. With that set up, I can almost guarantee that you will gain at least 20 ft-lbs (at the wheels!!!) in the low to mid range (I have dynos if you want me to prove it). You will feel the kick - no more lag in that range.
P.S. These items address the major concessions in the G's design. The plenum spacer was developed by an ex rocket scientist (seriously) to address restrictive factory airflow post throttle body, and high flow cats address one of the most restrictive elements on the exhaust side. The result is air going in more quickly and exhaust coming out more quickly. The UTEC & tune will tweak fuel and ignition timing to optimize the engine's use of the greater gas throughput.
Last edited by aero; 01-11-2008 at 09:57 AM.
#74
This thread is hilarious . Except for a few of the members posting here, most are uninformed and blabbing nonsense that they pull out of their a$$.
I have personal experiences with many M3's, Sti's, Evo's, etc. These races were from when I was n/a and now being FI. When I was n/a, I had every bolt on possible (intake, headers, test pipes, plenum, exhaust, utec, etc.) and I would pull M3's by 1-1.5 cars by 100mph. Same results for races with slightly modded Sti's & Evo's (intake & exhaust only). All of these races from a roll since the G is not too great from a dig, at least on street tires that is. But even from a stop, I would at least catch up and be even with them by 100mph.
Now for me being FI (Vortech SC), I am pushing right around 380-390 to the wheels. Let me tell you, I have not lost to ANY Sti's, Evo's or M3's except for 1 Evo. That was because he had an upgraded t4 turbo pushing around 400 AWHP. As for M3's in specific, I put BUS LENGTHS on them. Where does this bs come from that a FI'ed G can maybe "keep up" with an M3? Bimmer owners need to get over themselves and there cars . If they don't want to, then come race me and get a reality check .
Period.
I have personal experiences with many M3's, Sti's, Evo's, etc. These races were from when I was n/a and now being FI. When I was n/a, I had every bolt on possible (intake, headers, test pipes, plenum, exhaust, utec, etc.) and I would pull M3's by 1-1.5 cars by 100mph. Same results for races with slightly modded Sti's & Evo's (intake & exhaust only). All of these races from a roll since the G is not too great from a dig, at least on street tires that is. But even from a stop, I would at least catch up and be even with them by 100mph.
Now for me being FI (Vortech SC), I am pushing right around 380-390 to the wheels. Let me tell you, I have not lost to ANY Sti's, Evo's or M3's except for 1 Evo. That was because he had an upgraded t4 turbo pushing around 400 AWHP. As for M3's in specific, I put BUS LENGTHS on them. Where does this bs come from that a FI'ed G can maybe "keep up" with an M3? Bimmer owners need to get over themselves and there cars . If they don't want to, then come race me and get a reality check .
Period.
#75
* automatic street racers... blah blah lblah
Originally Posted by aero
Why is the G always such an underdog? A Stock G is great mix of price, luxury, and power. It's by no means a Z06, but who ever expected it to be?
There are so many relatively cheap mods that can be added to get that holy grail, kick in the low end and mid range. People need to spend a lot more time reading through all of our experiences (that's what makes these sites so great, you can LEARN from our successes and failures). Before I joined the site, I spent a good two months reading as much as I possibly could, seeing what mods were available, and the experiences people had with them, etc.
If you bone stock guys want some nice kick in the low end and mid range, get a replacement air filter, 5/16" Motordyne plenum spacer, high flow cats, and a UTEC tuned by a professional shop (specifically request a tune for low end and mid range torque). You can install the filter and spacer yourself, and an honest shop should charge you around 1.5 hours for the cats (or you could do these yourself too), and maybe $300-400 for the tune. We're talking around $2000 total, you can probably do better if you talk to the guys at Performance Factory, they have insanely cheap prices on most products. With that set up, I can almost guarantee that you will gain at least 20 ft-lbs (at the wheels!!!) in the low to mid range (I have dynos if you want me to prove it). You will feel the kick - no more lag in that range.
P.S. These items address the major concessions in the G's design. The plenum spacer was developed by an ex rocket scientist (seriously) to address restrictive factory airflow post throttle body, and high flow cats address one of the most restrictive elements on the exhaust side. The result is air going in more quickly and exhaust coming out more quickly. The UTEC & tune will tweak fuel and ignition timing to optimize the engine's use of the greater gas throughput.
There are so many relatively cheap mods that can be added to get that holy grail, kick in the low end and mid range. People need to spend a lot more time reading through all of our experiences (that's what makes these sites so great, you can LEARN from our successes and failures). Before I joined the site, I spent a good two months reading as much as I possibly could, seeing what mods were available, and the experiences people had with them, etc.
If you bone stock guys want some nice kick in the low end and mid range, get a replacement air filter, 5/16" Motordyne plenum spacer, high flow cats, and a UTEC tuned by a professional shop (specifically request a tune for low end and mid range torque). You can install the filter and spacer yourself, and an honest shop should charge you around 1.5 hours for the cats (or you could do these yourself too), and maybe $300-400 for the tune. We're talking around $2000 total, you can probably do better if you talk to the guys at Performance Factory, they have insanely cheap prices on most products. With that set up, I can almost guarantee that you will gain at least 20 ft-lbs (at the wheels!!!) in the low to mid range (I have dynos if you want me to prove it). You will feel the kick - no more lag in that range.
P.S. These items address the major concessions in the G's design. The plenum spacer was developed by an ex rocket scientist (seriously) to address restrictive factory airflow post throttle body, and high flow cats address one of the most restrictive elements on the exhaust side. The result is air going in more quickly and exhaust coming out more quickly. The UTEC & tune will tweak fuel and ignition timing to optimize the engine's use of the greater gas throughput.