Why not... Boxster S vs. Gcoupe
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Re: Why not... Boxster S vs. Gcoupe
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it's just from personal experiences and what they read, they feel domestic cars are usually not as reliable. it think that's more of a fact though as a whole. so, how can you have no respect for them just because you disagree?
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You're not listening or understanding me. Disagreeing with someone does not necessarily make me disrespect them. Read what I wrote again: I said I have no respect for people who don't have open minds and are biased. For example, if someone made the comment "All American cars suck and no American car could be better than an import." I would have no respect for such a person, and would deem him/her to be an ignorant, biased fool.
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you definitely give the impression that having a certain opinion about domestic cars means you don't love your country and that you must love another country.
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Under the example I gave above, if a person made a comment like that, then yes, not only would I consider them an ignorant biased fool, but also un-American.
Look at most of the other countries around the world. Most have a tremendous pride in what their country builds, even if they're the biggest POS's produced. The French love their Renaults. The Italians love their Fiats. Neither car makes would win many quality awards. European airlines will only buy an aircraft if it has some major European made parts. The Japanese will only buy Japanese cars. And on and on...
I find the lack of pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the younger generation.
If Americans produced the worst cars in the world, then hey, I would agree with you. But we don't. We happen to produce some of the best cars in the world. What pisses me off is when import lovers don't give the proper respect to a good American car, because its American.
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if you feel like we insulted your vette. so everyone here will agree.....your vette is SWEET and NICE!!!! i hope this war is over : )
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This isn't about my vette, and I don't recall bringing my vette into it. Everyone accuses me of talking too much about my Z06, when the reality is everyone keeps bringing my vette into the discussion before I do!
And this isn't a war - it's a discussion. One I intend to end, because its gotten old and boring, and a waste of time. Besides, this has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, which was Boxster S vs. G Coupe. So lets end this and bring this poor guy's thread back on topic. So reserve your comments towards me to the wall next to you, or send me a PM, or start a new thread.
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it's just from personal experiences and what they read, they feel domestic cars are usually not as reliable. it think that's more of a fact though as a whole. so, how can you have no respect for them just because you disagree?
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You're not listening or understanding me. Disagreeing with someone does not necessarily make me disrespect them. Read what I wrote again: I said I have no respect for people who don't have open minds and are biased. For example, if someone made the comment "All American cars suck and no American car could be better than an import." I would have no respect for such a person, and would deem him/her to be an ignorant, biased fool.
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you definitely give the impression that having a certain opinion about domestic cars means you don't love your country and that you must love another country.
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Under the example I gave above, if a person made a comment like that, then yes, not only would I consider them an ignorant biased fool, but also un-American.
Look at most of the other countries around the world. Most have a tremendous pride in what their country builds, even if they're the biggest POS's produced. The French love their Renaults. The Italians love their Fiats. Neither car makes would win many quality awards. European airlines will only buy an aircraft if it has some major European made parts. The Japanese will only buy Japanese cars. And on and on...
I find the lack of pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the younger generation.
If Americans produced the worst cars in the world, then hey, I would agree with you. But we don't. We happen to produce some of the best cars in the world. What pisses me off is when import lovers don't give the proper respect to a good American car, because its American.
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if you feel like we insulted your vette. so everyone here will agree.....your vette is SWEET and NICE!!!! i hope this war is over : )
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This isn't about my vette, and I don't recall bringing my vette into it. Everyone accuses me of talking too much about my Z06, when the reality is everyone keeps bringing my vette into the discussion before I do!
And this isn't a war - it's a discussion. One I intend to end, because its gotten old and boring, and a waste of time. Besides, this has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, which was Boxster S vs. G Coupe. So lets end this and bring this poor guy's thread back on topic. So reserve your comments towards me to the wall next to you, or send me a PM, or start a new thread.
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Re: Why not... Boxster S vs. Gcoupe
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mercedez is part american own...so..ya
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No, the other way around. Chrysler is now German owned. Daimler was the acquiring company. Technically it was a "merger" but at the end of the day, DCX is German.
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...no hating on american companies..lol..just american makers....
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So in that case, do you consider a Honda Accord that's built in Ohio by American workers a POS?
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mercedez is part american own...so..ya
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No, the other way around. Chrysler is now German owned. Daimler was the acquiring company. Technically it was a "merger" but at the end of the day, DCX is German.
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...no hating on american companies..lol..just american makers....
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So in that case, do you consider a Honda Accord that's built in Ohio by American workers a POS?
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Re: Why not... Boxster S vs. Gcoupe
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You're not listening or understanding me. Disagreeing with someone does not necessarily make me disrespect them. Read what I wrote again: I said I have no respect for people who don't have open minds and are biased. For example, if someone made the comment "All American cars suck and no American car could be better than an import." I would have no respect for such a person, and would deem him/her to be an ignorant, biased fool.
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i agree....but in the beginning...everyone was just simply saying "ON AVERAGE japanese cars give u a better value than american cars would" and then u got all pissed off and disagreeing and give me that jd power thing...which didn't help proving your point....
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Under the example I gave above, if a person made a comment like that, then yes, not only would I consider them an ignorant biased fool, but also un-American.
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are you serious? being an american is not to love everything that america makes...thats SOOoooOOOOoo communist... "he hates american cars..KILL HIM...BETRAYOR"..lol..
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I find the lack of pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the younger generation.
If Americans produced the worst cars in the world, then hey, I would agree with you. But we don't. We happen to produce some of the best cars in the world. What pisses me off is when import lovers don't give the proper respect to a good American car, because its American.
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I find the blindly unrealistic pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the older generation. i bet 20 bucks on u being an extreme right hand republician who smoked weed with bush while he was running away from the vietnam war...and u r probably the kinda person who would protect someone you love even though she just killed someone and you wouldn't turn her in...and what not...thats not how you wanna be "patriotic"... i am PROUD to be an american because we always TRY to stand for what we are....and guess what? i am also proud because we have so many advocates in the country to make sure that it is going on the right track.....freedom of speech and what not...and no...other countries dun do that..only US has some stupid pride thing "best things in the world has to come from US"...man..if you have so much to prove how good an american car is...go ahead man..i am listening...i personally believe that a certain car is really nice...namely the corvette for the 50K range...no one even come close to it performance wise...until u hit the 60k range with the M3 ...OH WAIT...hmm..the STi and Evo..hmm..30K...awd...same perforamnce..HMMMmm...i dunno anymore man...you tell me...
YOU STILL DID NOT TELL ME WHY YOU SAID AMERICAN CARS DID SO WELL IN EUROPE...NO MERCEDEZ doesn't count as american..nor jaguar...nor lamborgini and what not...i meant american made...not american OWN...there's a difference there...
so..until then...
You're not listening or understanding me. Disagreeing with someone does not necessarily make me disrespect them. Read what I wrote again: I said I have no respect for people who don't have open minds and are biased. For example, if someone made the comment "All American cars suck and no American car could be better than an import." I would have no respect for such a person, and would deem him/her to be an ignorant, biased fool.
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i agree....but in the beginning...everyone was just simply saying "ON AVERAGE japanese cars give u a better value than american cars would" and then u got all pissed off and disagreeing and give me that jd power thing...which didn't help proving your point....
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Under the example I gave above, if a person made a comment like that, then yes, not only would I consider them an ignorant biased fool, but also un-American.
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are you serious? being an american is not to love everything that america makes...thats SOOoooOOOOoo communist... "he hates american cars..KILL HIM...BETRAYOR"..lol..
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I find the lack of pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the younger generation.
If Americans produced the worst cars in the world, then hey, I would agree with you. But we don't. We happen to produce some of the best cars in the world. What pisses me off is when import lovers don't give the proper respect to a good American car, because its American.
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I find the blindly unrealistic pride in this country disturbing, particularly among the older generation. i bet 20 bucks on u being an extreme right hand republician who smoked weed with bush while he was running away from the vietnam war...and u r probably the kinda person who would protect someone you love even though she just killed someone and you wouldn't turn her in...and what not...thats not how you wanna be "patriotic"... i am PROUD to be an american because we always TRY to stand for what we are....and guess what? i am also proud because we have so many advocates in the country to make sure that it is going on the right track.....freedom of speech and what not...and no...other countries dun do that..only US has some stupid pride thing "best things in the world has to come from US"...man..if you have so much to prove how good an american car is...go ahead man..i am listening...i personally believe that a certain car is really nice...namely the corvette for the 50K range...no one even come close to it performance wise...until u hit the 60k range with the M3 ...OH WAIT...hmm..the STi and Evo..hmm..30K...awd...same perforamnce..HMMMmm...i dunno anymore man...you tell me...
YOU STILL DID NOT TELL ME WHY YOU SAID AMERICAN CARS DID SO WELL IN EUROPE...NO MERCEDEZ doesn't count as american..nor jaguar...nor lamborgini and what not...i meant american made...not american OWN...there's a difference there...
so..until then...
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takuyaah - is it possible for you to get any dumber? For your sake, I hope you''re only 10 years old because if you're an adult you have the sorry mind of a 10 year old.
I wasn't going to waste my time searching through JD Powers reports, but since you're last comment was SO dumb and WRONG, and pissed me off so much, here's a slap in your face for ya:
http://www.jdpower.com/cc/global/awa...p?step=4&id=19
Most Dependable Entry Midsize Car
The Chevrolet Malibu was the highest ranked entry midsize car in the J.D. Power and Associates 2003 Vehicle Dependability Study of 2000 model year vehicles. Study based on a total of 55,483 consumer responses indicating owner reported problems during the previous 12 months of ownership.
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Dec 29, 2003 #1 in Customer Retention
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May 6, 2003 Highest Ranked Premium Midsize Car in Initial Quality
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Oh, what's this? Cadillac, Buick, and Mercury not only are way ahead of industry average in quality, but they're better than Infiniti, Toyota, Acura, and Mercedes!! Cadillac placed number 2, behind Lexus among ALL brands.
Even Chevy ranks much higher than Nissan, Subaru, Mazda and Mitsubishi.
http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/index.jsp
So there's the FACTS man. Staring you right in the face. So STFU with your B.S. Unless you have some FACTS for me, I don't want to hear your meaningless OPINION, because you're WRONG.
You hella stupid Yo.
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I wasn't going to waste my time searching through JD Powers reports, but since you're last comment was SO dumb and WRONG, and pissed me off so much, here's a slap in your face for ya:
http://www.jdpower.com/cc/global/awa...p?step=4&id=19
Most Dependable Entry Midsize Car
The Chevrolet Malibu was the highest ranked entry midsize car in the J.D. Power and Associates 2003 Vehicle Dependability Study of 2000 model year vehicles. Study based on a total of 55,483 consumer responses indicating owner reported problems during the previous 12 months of ownership.
Chevrolet. Click on the claim you wish to view.
Jul 8, 2003 Most Dependable Entry Midsize Car
2003 Vehicle Dependability Study Malibu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 6, 2003 Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality
2003 Initial Quality Study Malibu
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 6, 2003 Highest Ranked Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle in Initial Quality
2003 Initial Quality Study Suburban
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dec 29, 2003 #1 in Customer Retention
2003 Customer Retention Study
General Motors Corporation. Click on the claim you wish to view.
May 6, 2003 Silver Plant Quality Award, North/South America
2003 Initial Quality Study Lansing Grand River, MI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 6, 2003 Gold Plant Quality Award, North/South America
2003 Initial Quality Study Oshawa #1, Ontario
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GMC. Click on the claim you wish to view.
Jul 8, 2003 Most Dependable Full-Size Van
2003 Vehicle Dependability Study Savana
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jul 8, 2003 Most Dependable Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle
2003 Vehicle Dependability Study Yukon (GMT 400)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mercury. Click on the claim you wish to view.
Jul 8, 2003 Most Dependable Full-Size Car
2003 Vehicle Dependability Study Grand Marquis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 6, 2003 Highest Ranked Premium Midsize Car in Initial Quality
2003 Initial Quality Study Sable
Oh, what's this? Cadillac, Buick, and Mercury not only are way ahead of industry average in quality, but they're better than Infiniti, Toyota, Acura, and Mercedes!! Cadillac placed number 2, behind Lexus among ALL brands.
Even Chevy ranks much higher than Nissan, Subaru, Mazda and Mitsubishi.
http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/index.jsp
So there's the FACTS man. Staring you right in the face. So STFU with your B.S. Unless you have some FACTS for me, I don't want to hear your meaningless OPINION, because you're WRONG.
You hella stupid Yo.
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Re: Why not... Boxster S vs. Gcoupe
so what's going on here, anyone like to sum up for me?
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now u know why i said jd powers is a POS..when chevy is over infiniti..you know something is wrong =)
again..i am not arguing ALL american car is unreliable...i am saying...ON AVERAGE japanese cars are more reliable...why can't u guys agree?
and YES i count honda that made in america american made...so there..and i dun think i said anything wrong about mercedez...it is part american own..so ya...you just keep repeating what i said...good job...while u keep arguing there are some reliable american car...in a whole...you still lost
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american people messed up mazda and mitsubishi....lol...they put american parts in them after 94 or something...thats why it went straight down afterward..hahahaha..thanks
again..i am not arguing ALL american car is unreliable...i am saying...ON AVERAGE japanese cars are more reliable...why can't u guys agree?
and YES i count honda that made in america american made...so there..and i dun think i said anything wrong about mercedez...it is part american own..so ya...you just keep repeating what i said...good job...while u keep arguing there are some reliable american car...in a whole...you still lost
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american people messed up mazda and mitsubishi....lol...they put american parts in them after 94 or something...thats why it went straight down afterward..hahahaha..thanks
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Reference my earlier response to the initial post. I posted on topic and related my personal experience in a friends Boxster as compared to my G........ Oh, wait, I've fallen into a trap. Um, OK. here we go. G as fast, Boxster less quality, G is a 4 seater, Boxster 2, and here's a good one, Boxster is a convertible, G a coupe. Whoa Nellie, I'm on a roll now. Boxster a Boxer, G a V, Boxster a mid engine, G a front engine. Hey, wait a minute. It just hit me. They are two very different cars...... But I already said that.
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american people messed up mazda and mitsubishi....lol...they put american parts in them after 94 or something...thats why it went straight down afterward..hahahaha..thanks
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Uh, no. 90% of a Honda Accord and Acura TL are made of American made parts. Explain that.
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american people messed up mazda and mitsubishi....lol...they put american parts in them after 94 or something...thats why it went straight down afterward..hahahaha..thanks
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Uh, no. 90% of a Honda Accord and Acura TL are made of American made parts. Explain that.
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oh..now i know why they have such crappy quality in the new TL/accord now..thanks z06....u keep clearing things up for me....i was wondering why the perfect japanese engineering would fall apart after so many years....
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i dun really know where you come up with those claims..so its ok....even if you say honda was founded by american....go read this
oh ya...i don't appreciate u to start calling names about everyone...cuz its just make YOU look bad...no one ever called you STUPID or anything....so you can just drop it and stop being so childish about it...we are having a discussing..name calling doesn't help....if u wanna jump across the screen and kick my ***...thats fine..but until then..just chill out...i doubt if u can go thru the screen anything..why dun u try?
let me say this again..FORD = POS...BUICK = POS.....CADILLAC = POS......GMC =POS.....HUMMER TOTALLY POS.....MERCURY = POS.....OLDSMOBILE = POS.....there..
oh ya...i don't appreciate u to start calling names about everyone...cuz its just make YOU look bad...no one ever called you STUPID or anything....so you can just drop it and stop being so childish about it...we are having a discussing..name calling doesn't help....if u wanna jump across the screen and kick my ***...thats fine..but until then..just chill out...i doubt if u can go thru the screen anything..why dun u try?
let me say this again..FORD = POS...BUICK = POS.....CADILLAC = POS......GMC =POS.....HUMMER TOTALLY POS.....MERCURY = POS.....OLDSMOBILE = POS.....there..