OMG.. Did I buy a used G with FRAME DAMAGE? Please LOOK (pics inside)
#61
12-04-2010, 02:43 AM
It doesnt matter what it looks like as long as there is good penetration .Whats the point of having a pretty beads there anyway .Its not really gonna be seen It obviously was welded by hand from the factory due to all the ones iv seen are a little different . Also the red is factory undercoating . Even if it was repaired which its not nobody would ever use bondo under the car . It would serve no purpose .Also nissan is not the only car company that has suspension members that looks like that . Iv seen welds like that on a lot of different cars .
You have a certain level of expectation when something comes from the third largest japanese motor company in japan versus you welding something in your back yard.
The welds aren't dangerous, but not up to a quality level you would expect for a car that is suppose to compete against a BMW 3 series.
#62
12-04-2010, 02:49 AM
I personally don't care what the welds look like. I have never seen one fail, even with over 1000 hp going through the diff which is bolted to it as well.
Some things are better if they are over-engineered from the factory.
BTW, we just traded in our 07 Civic because with only 43,000 miles, things started breaking. Maybe if they welded the sun visors and instrument cluster together like Nissan does their support members, we would buy another Honda.
Some things are better if they are over-engineered from the factory.
BTW, we just traded in our 07 Civic because with only 43,000 miles, things started breaking. Maybe if they welded the sun visors and instrument cluster together like Nissan does their support members, we would buy another Honda.
#63
12-04-2010, 03:00 AM
Yup..I got T-boned and the subframe got a little tweaked..my friends body shop replaced it..
#64
12-04-2010, 04:38 AM
Same reason you wouldn't buy a new tv with excess solder on the motherboards and computer chips. You would think the tv is cheaply made and will break, because you've seen other tv's with clean cut solder points or chips intergrated in the motherboard, even though the tv with excess solder actually works and will last 20yrs.
You have a certain level of expectation when something comes from the third largest japanese motor company in japan versus you welding something in your back yard.
The welds aren't dangerous, but not up to a quality level you would expect for a car that is suppose to compete against a BMW 3 series.
You have a certain level of expectation when something comes from the third largest japanese motor company in japan versus you welding something in your back yard.
The welds aren't dangerous, but not up to a quality level you would expect for a car that is suppose to compete against a BMW 3 series.
And to the OP, your stability problems are most likely just due to your alignment. Take it in and you should be fine.
#65
12-04-2010, 05:13 AM
Same reason you wouldn't buy a new tv with excess solder on the motherboards and computer chips. You would think the tv is cheaply made and will break, because you've seen other tv's with clean cut solder points or chips intergrated in the motherboard, even though the tv with excess solder actually works and will last 20yrs.
You have a certain level of expectation when something comes from the third largest japanese motor company in japan versus you welding something in your back yard.
The welds aren't dangerous, but not up to a quality level you would expect for a car that is suppose to compete against a BMW 3 series.
You have a certain level of expectation when something comes from the third largest japanese motor company in japan versus you welding something in your back yard.
The welds aren't dangerous, but not up to a quality level you would expect for a car that is suppose to compete against a BMW 3 series.
Have you ever seen or heard of a infiniti suspension member cracking at the welds . My guess is no so then there is no problem with quality
#66
12-04-2010, 10:57 AM
My friend who is a highly skilled BMW and other German cars mechanic told me how the Japanese usually have highly unfinished pieces (if those pieces are not visible to the consumer). He says the Germans do not do this. He noted and showed me that the subframe he put into my G35 had lots of razor sharp edges. He said the Germans wouldn't put the mechanic at risk like that...one slip of the wrench and your hand is shredded.
And the welds on my new subframe were UGLY.
And the welds on my new subframe were UGLY.
#69
12-04-2010, 03:55 PM
Let be honest. If the same crappy welds was found on a Lexus IS350 or a Honda instead of OUR car, everyone here would be having a blast attacker Lexus. Doesn't matter if it's under the car and no one can see it, shoddy welds are shoddy welds.
Would anyone here buy an exhaust with the same welds? NO. Why not? I mean, you can't see it right? I've seen many people here attacking off brand exhaust because of the "welds"... But when it comes to the welds on the G. It's perfectly ok?
The welds are soo crappy, I bet an insurance adjuster would look at it and say the car has been in a bad accident and it's salvaged. I mean, just look at the first few posts, people thought it was...
I've seen better workmanship on a 1996 Acura. LOL. It's the little things that count sometimes. Don't get me started on the headliner. The edge where it meets the windsheild.. That part is sagging like a mother F'er. Whereas, on other cars, it is sealed and a rubber mold is covering the gap holding the headliner in place. On the G, there are no seal. Just an ugly looking edge..
Would anyone here buy an exhaust with the same welds? NO. Why not? I mean, you can't see it right? I've seen many people here attacking off brand exhaust because of the "welds"... But when it comes to the welds on the G. It's perfectly ok?
The welds are soo crappy, I bet an insurance adjuster would look at it and say the car has been in a bad accident and it's salvaged. I mean, just look at the first few posts, people thought it was...
I've seen better workmanship on a 1996 Acura. LOL. It's the little things that count sometimes. Don't get me started on the headliner. The edge where it meets the windsheild.. That part is sagging like a mother F'er. Whereas, on other cars, it is sealed and a rubber mold is covering the gap holding the headliner in place. On the G, there are no seal. Just an ugly looking edge..
#72
12-04-2010, 06:45 PM
I just read on MSNBC.COM that local authorities have taken into custody what they have described as an undercarriage pervert. It appears over the last couple days people have been reporting that a perp has been seen with a flashlight crawling under several vechicles. When apprehended he claimed that he was only examining frame welds. He gave the name of jibberjabbers but authorities think that this may be an alias. When interviewed a local officer stated that this was just plain unbelievable. In his expert opinion who the hell cares. More information will be forthcoming
#74
12-04-2010, 08:22 PM
#75
12-04-2010, 08:34 PM
Ok Here is my 2 cents....
The welds on the subframe are perfect...
The bondo crap on your frame isnt. I Didnt see any clamp marks so you should be ok, but that doesnt mean it wasnt involved in an accident...
Oh and only 5% of all accidents actually do get reported... Its your job to have the vehicle get a second opinion for the other 95% chance you are taking purchasing a used vehicle
The welds on the subframe are perfect...
The bondo crap on your frame isnt. I Didnt see any clamp marks so you should be ok, but that doesnt mean it wasnt involved in an accident...
Oh and only 5% of all accidents actually do get reported... Its your job to have the vehicle get a second opinion for the other 95% chance you are taking purchasing a used vehicle