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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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I believe you and ricky had a shoot together, and he sold his g35 to another guy here a while back. I picked it up from that guy.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by herrschaft
Of course there's a timeline, otherwise the G35 can be considered a supercar if compared to a Model-T.....

Oh, and I'm fairly certain that Ferrari can still outperform a G35.
So if it looks modernly design fast, it better backup its looks with the right amount of horse power.
Your so against kits cars, did you know your cars company was built on selling them?

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Originally Posted by khundkar
I think from an engineering standpoint you have an interesting idea, just like a kit car, but the problem is the amount of money needed to change the G into an exotic, plus being ridiculed at car shows is not worth it. I don't think it is a good idea to post replica lambos to show how "great" they look.. think about it, once these replica lambos get their *** handed to them by simple turbo civics or srt4s, you will be the laughing stock of your town.
Im not building the G series but I am rebodying the ZX. My view point is that automobile art is greater then anything else, ridicule or a slow car.

Originally Posted by evoM3evo
That second one is pretty cool!
Im not sure which one you mean, relink the picture if you like

Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
For a "generic" design, my car gets an awful lot of compliments.

And this is exactly how the conversation would go:
-"Dude...that's a nice Murcielago."
"Thanks."
-"Is it fast?"
"Well, yeah."
-"Can I see the engine?"
"Erm...I don't think so."
-"Well why not? Come on, let me look."
-"Wait...why are there only four cylinders?"
-"Dude...what kind of joke is this?"
Seriously. Trying to make your car something it's not is just stupid...
This is how the conversation would go

-"Dude...that's a nice Murcielago."
"Thanks, its a kit car"
-"Dude...what kind of joke is this?"
I like the design unlike the mass produced bloated coupe you arrived in

Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
This. Just because a car only has 130HP doesn't make it slow. A Smart car with 138HP Suzuki motor swap will demolish a lot of things on the highway.
Even if its 0-60mph is close to 7 seconds, factory si Civics can do that. Point being the old Ferrari looks exotic fast, but it isnt, so now a design timeline (what ever/who ever dictates that) is added to this equation.

Originally Posted by ME GUSTA
And the SLC looks like crap? It looks like a damn street legal LMP1 car.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but yes for that kind of car

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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good job comparing a car that looks very similar to the SLC.

how about a comparison with your crappy designs?

trololololo. i can draw a better car pissing on snow.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Arashi
So if it looks modernly design fast, it better backup its looks with the right amount of horse power.
Your so against kits cars, did you know your cars company was built on selling them?
Except you're forgetting that the Nissans were not kit cars. They used Nissan motors didn't they. You didn't have to use some MR2 or Fiero to put the Nissan body over.

Maybe you can convince the guys at Honda-tech with all of your retarded BS, but us here at this forum would not drive an Aston Martin G35. Try the civic guys, maybe you can convince them that they should put a Lambo kit on their car using paper mache. But I'm already registered at Honda-Tech so expect to be trolled there by yours truly as well.

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 09:57 AM
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OP, it was a horrible idea to post that first picture of the Aston w/G grills slapped on. that turned everyone off, no one's against making the car your own. the issue is going out expressly to copy something else, now just making the car look more exotic is fine and has been done w/some success in the past on here. i understand why you're getting defensive considering the reaction you got but now you're just spouting nonsense. let's just get back on topic here, focusing on "more exotic" vs. "more like an existing exotic" would be a good start
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Arashi
So if it looks modernly design fast, it better backup its looks with the right amount of horse power.
Your so against kits cars, did you know your cars company was built on selling them?
Kit cars that are made to mimic something else but can't perform like the real thing, yes I'm against that. The term "Poser" comes to mind when I think about it. Personally, I'd rather make a stock looking car fast rather then doing it backwards.

My idea of a kit car would be the Factory 5 GTM, something that not only looks good but also earns the title of a "supercar".
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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This guy is just a giant troll guys.... Hes already trolled Beyond and 300zx forums...

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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That I can agree on. Make bumpers/etc. Just not entire cars.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Arashi
This is how the conversation would go

-"Dude...that's a nice Murcielago."
"Thanks, its a kit car"
-"Dude...what kind of joke is this?"
I like the design unlike the mass produced bloated coupe you arrived in
Bloated, mass-produced coupe? You're completely counterdicting yourself! You are the one talking about turning this "bloated, mass-produced" coupe into something that looks "exotic."

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Even if its 0-60mph is close to 7 seconds, factory si Civics can do that. Point being the old Ferrari looks exotic fast, but it isnt, so now a design timeline (what ever/who ever dictates that) is added to this equation.
So you're saying that because a 1970-something Ferrari has the equivalent 0-60 time as a 2012 Civic Si, it's justified to make a "slow" exotic?

I don't follow your reasoning. At all. Unless you're planning on making an exotic that looks like it's from 1970 to make up for it being slow.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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I'm down for a new rear bumper for the sedan. Not much love for us.

Or a hood!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Honestly when it comes to doing this kind of custom work, people come into the shop I work with, with hopes and dreams. Then we tell them what the cost will be to do what they want. The usually walk away and we never really see them again. To make the G look like an "exotic" your looking at a LOT of labor. Hundreds of hours of labor on it. Stretching the doors is not just something that you can easily throw around and do. To stretch a door say the G you have to move the B pillar out that means change the bracing in the car. This alone is a lot. You can drop 40k on body work. In the end you should have just saved up and bought a used Ferrari or Aston martin.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Honestly, the G looks fine the way it is. Why mess with the design?

It's unique. That's one thing I think Nissan has always had going for them: while Lexus, BMW, M.Benz and all those other mid-level car companies are trying to copy each other, Infinti has managed to retain its own unique profile and design. Give me one other car on the road that even remotely resembles the G35 coupe that was designed before it was.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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@Mr_Brett: the 350Z....trololololololol

Why would you spend 18k on a car, and then another 30-50k on body work to make a car that LOOKS like something else when you can just spend that amount on a pre-owned version of what you're transforming your car into? Unless you're a body guy and just like doing it, it doesn't make sense for ANYONE involved.

Also, why would I want my car to look like an exotic? It's not an exotic. My assumption is that you'd know that the car you're about to buy is not an exotic car BEFORE you buy it. If you DON'T know that, then yeah, I guess it makes sense to go all goofy on changing it. Like, if you buy it, get it home, look up exotic on teh interwebz and be like "OH SCHNAP!!!!! MY CAR IS A LUXURY COUPE!!!!! NOT AN EXOTIC? DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!" So, yeah, if that happens, then do up an exotic kit.

Based on that 300ZX, I'd agree with the point made about you making body kits. Just don't make gay ones.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by driftsucky
@Mr_Brett: the 350Z....trololololololol

Why would you spend 18k on a car, and then another 30-50k on body work to make a car that LOOKS like something else when you can just spend that amount on a pre-owned version of what you're transforming your car into? Unless you're a body guy and just like doing it, it doesn't make sense for ANYONE involved.
Find me a car under 200k that kinda looks like this



Also, why would I want my car to look like an exotic? It's not an exotic. My assumption is that you'd know that the car you're about to buy is not an exotic car BEFORE you buy it. If you DON'T know that, then yeah, I guess it makes sense to go all goofy on changing it. Like, if you buy it, get it home, look up exotic on teh interwebz and be like "OH SCHNAP!!!!! MY CAR IS A LUXURY COUPE!!!!! NOT AN EXOTIC? DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!" So, yeah, if that happens, then do up an exotic kit.

Based on that 300ZX, I'd agree with the point made about you making body kits. Just don't make gay ones.
I'll try my best

Originally Posted by ME GUSTA
good job comparing a car that looks very similar to the SLC.

how about a comparison with your crappy designs?

trololololo. i can draw a better car pissing on snow.
Here you go, modeled over a NSX for a donor and overall probably cheaper then your flimsy kit car
https://i.imgur.com/2mR0q.jpg

Originally Posted by ME GUSTA
Except you're forgetting that the Nissans were not kit cars. They used Nissan motors didn't they. You didn't have to use some MR2 or Fiero to put the Nissan body over..
They used Nissan motors which were lower in performance to the fast looking cars they copied, thus its a kit car with their own internals.
Can I buy Suzuki automobiles and kit Ferrari 599 bodies on them and still be legit, I dont think so.

Originally Posted by SDGenius
the issue is going out expressly to copy something else, now just making the car look more exotic is fine and has been done w/some success in the past on here. i understand why you're getting defensive considering the reaction you got but now you're just spouting nonsense. let's just get back on topic here, focusing on "more exotic" vs. "more like an existing exotic" would be a good start
Right. On the making it "more exotic" subject, one thing that I wouldnt like to fake is having a front engine car but with none functional rear vents that are suppose to cool a rear engine.
Even in this concept below some might have a problem with all the space behind the seats being an empty unused area and shaped like what a mid engine car should be like, to this I wouldnt care.
Making the G35 into an exotic-imw1x.jpg

Making donors like existing replicas has lots of variables were taste and money play a big factor in... but in the big picture I say do what ever makes one happy instead of trying to conform to what ever.

Originally Posted by herrschaft
Kit cars that are made to mimic something else but can't perform like the real thing, yes I'm against that. The term "Poser" comes to mind when I think about it. Personally, I'd rather make a stock looking car fast rather then doing it backwards.

My idea of a kit car would be the Factory 5 GTM, something that not only looks good but also earns the title of a "supercar".
Just know that their are people who are happy and content with their kit cars while you might not never own a modern exotic looking car in your life... I personally think its pretty irresponsible to spend 100k on a car unless your rich.

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This guy is just a giant troll guys.... Hes already trolled Beyond and 300zx forums...
http://forums.beyond.ca/st2/making-m...=&pagenumber=1
By making threads like this I come up with new concepts and feed back directly from the consumer.

Originally Posted by AmateuRN
I think you have some talent:

But the designs don't flow together. I think you'd really be better off just making up some simply bumpers to fit on cars and make things more subtle for them. You'd probably do awesome at making another Kuruma Z type bumper for the G... but not plastering the front with a futuristic design.
Thanks, I have chosen this as a career now so after making the ZX kit I will be rebodying all types of cheap donors and dont think parts will make a fraction of what a whole conversion kit can profit me and make others happy.

Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
Bloated, mass-produced coupe? You're completely counterdicting yourself! You are the one talking about turning this "bloated, mass-produced" coupe into something that looks "exotic."
On face value it is a common car and the engine is pressed in tight to make it bloated unlike how the ZX was made.

But on the other hand this g35 builder has shown us the limits of what the donor can become and also you can see in my styling concepts that it can look slick.


So you're saying that because a 1970-something Ferrari has the equivalent 0-60 time as a 2012 Civic Si, it's justified to make a "slow" exotic?

I don't follow your reasoning. At all. Unless you're planning on making an exotic that looks like it's from 1970 to make up for it being slow.
I was debating this whole notion of what some of the guys are saying of a fast looking car needing lots of power, say 600HP to backup its looks... where a 308 old style model, fast looking Ferrari has as much power as todays Civics.


Originally Posted by AJY
I'm down for a new rear bumper for the sedan. Not much love for us.
Or a hood!!!!!
If you can design one on paper or like something from another car, I can show you steps on how to produce it.


Originally Posted by guitarrocker98
Honestly when it comes to doing this kind of custom work, people come into the shop I work with, with hopes and dreams. Then we tell them what the cost will be to do what they want. The usually walk away and we never really see them again. To make the G look like an "exotic" your looking at a LOT of labor. Hundreds of hours of labor on it.

Stretching the doors is not just something that you can easily throw around and do. To stretch a door say the G you have to move the B pillar out that means change the bracing in the car. This alone is a lot. You can drop 40k on body work. In the end you should have just saved up and bought a used Ferrari or Aston martin.
Having my own CNC machine, if I wanted to make an extreme kit like what is being done to the G35, I would only have to worry about bracing the A-pillars to strengthen it for a convertible conversion, then later adding a sectional hard top. Other then that no door stretching is required or what the g35 builder has done by bending the A-pillars and fitting in a new windshield to make it slicker.

Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
Honestly, the G looks fine the way it is. Why mess with the design?

It's unique. That's one thing I think Nissan has always had going for them: while Lexus, BMW, M.Benz and all those other mid-level car companies are trying to copy each other, Infinti has managed to retain its own unique profile and design. Give me one other car on the road that even remotely resembles the G35 coupe that was designed before it was.
I respect the G35 design, with after market headlights, its a timeless design and I cant say that Ive ever seen anything resemble it.
Why mess with it? well because its a modern donor that is relatively cheap and reliable and hopefully making a conversion kit for it will make it better looking. I personally have no faith in other people designing cars, Im not saying Im great, but I do think my designs would appeal to the public more then a stock G.
 

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