Bmw owners taking shots at US.
Originally Posted by Wingsprint
Really???
Explain why Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura have destroyed the Germans in the magazine comparison tests recently. The beloved BMW 5 series was rated mid pack in the last Sports/Luxury test by Car and Driver. The M45 won that test. To make matters worse Motor Tend just rated the same 5 series behind Acura, Lexus and Infiniti- Which the M35 was top dog. The entry level Infiniti M35 beat Mercedes, BMW, and Audi.
Wake up... The Japanese are killing the Germans at their own game.

Explain why Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura have destroyed the Germans in the magazine comparison tests recently. The beloved BMW 5 series was rated mid pack in the last Sports/Luxury test by Car and Driver. The M45 won that test. To make matters worse Motor Tend just rated the same 5 series behind Acura, Lexus and Infiniti- Which the M35 was top dog. The entry level Infiniti M35 beat Mercedes, BMW, and Audi.
Wake up... The Japanese are killing the Germans at their own game.

I'm sorry but the 545i is still king in my book. 6 speed manual with a beautiful V8. The M45 is a great competitor, much better value, but lacks a manual and sportiness of the 545.
Bottom line, German cars are better when you have the extra $$$. Dollar for dollar, you get much more for your money with a Japanese car. But German cars are known to be more stable, solid, powerful, assuming you spend the extra $ for the higher end models. I would NEVER spend more than $50K on a japanese car, but I would be glad to spend $100K for a Porsche 997. Likewise, german cars in the 30-50k price range are typically weak. With the germans, you just need more money.
Originally Posted by ireloaded9
Mods - please consider banning TheGest...we don't need ignorance and racism on these forums...
ban me.... i was the one defending the asians, read the post retard, i quoted somebody and replied.
Last edited by TheGest; May 12, 2005 at 06:18 PM.
M3 is the better car, Just like a Porshce 911 Turbo is better than a M3, a Ferrari is better than a Porchse it all comes down to money, the more you have the nicer things you can get. Not everything is about quality and what would smoke what. There is name, class, feel, prestige, please lets not be all G35 is the best. Every car has something that another one lacks, i can name good things about the G and bad things about it to, same goes for the M3, lets be intelligent people and understand things apropriatly, you guys are begging to sound like *****
Originally Posted by TheGest
M3 is the better car, Just like a Porshce 911 Turbo is better than a M3, a Ferrari is better than a Porchse it all comes down to money, the more you have the nicer things you can get. Not everything is about quality and what would smoke what. There is name, class, feel, prestige, please lets not be all G35 is the best. Every car has something that another one lacks, i can name good things about the G and bad things about it to, same goes for the M3, lets be intelligent people and understand things apropriatly, you guys are begging to sound like *****
Originally Posted by TheGest
ban me.... i was the one defending the asians, read the post retard, i quoted somebody and replied.
Originally Posted by DanielEshaghian
Yea I agree with THeGest. To the dude who wanted this guy banned. Pull ur skirt up and stop being such a woman. The guy reacted to what he thought was an attack on him, and I don't think anyone would have called that racist. Maybe you are a bit too tightly wound up????
Originally Posted by DanielEshaghian
I drive a G35. I love the car. I'd take a BMW M3 or a 545 in a second over the G or any other Japanese car. Sorry to burst anyones bubble...
I'd take a M45 Sport over a 545 ANY DAY!
Originally Posted by meeno
...I'm sorry but the 545i is still king in my book. ...
That's why they make so many of them in BLACK. They're trying to hide the lines.Oh yeah, Martin: If you quit posting here and then all of a sudden only reply in the BMW related posts (after you go and buy a BMW), you automatically get reduced to TROLL status.
j/k
^^^^ I was all excited to see and drive the new 545's after looking at the mag pictures and BMW brochure, but in real life the car is hardly more distinguishable than a Honda Accord. Also, the new active steering that comes with the sport package on the 5 series is about the most awkward steering mechanism I've ever come across. Having the steering ratio change on you while driving is just a bad idea.
Originally Posted by neffster
Yeah, but have you seen "the emperor's new clothes". That 545 butt ugly.
That's why they make so many of them in BLACK. They're trying to hide the lines.
Oh yeah, Martin: If you quit posting here and then all of a sudden only reply in the BMW related posts (after you go and buy a BMW), you automatically get reduced to TROLL status.
j/k
That's why they make so many of them in BLACK. They're trying to hide the lines.Oh yeah, Martin: If you quit posting here and then all of a sudden only reply in the BMW related posts (after you go and buy a BMW), you automatically get reduced to TROLL status.
j/k
Originally Posted by pdjafari
Martin,
I was just being sarcastic as we all know you dont post too often here any longer!! my way of saying 'wazaap'!
I was just being sarcastic as we all know you dont post too often here any longer!! my way of saying 'wazaap'!

Im always on here but very busy lately, its just not worth posting anymore with all of these damm newbies that are ruining the board witht he most stupid shlt
Originally Posted by TheGest
M3 is the better car, Just like a Porshce 911 Turbo is better than a M3, a Ferrari is better than a Porchse it all comes down to money, the more you have the nicer things you can get. Not everything is about quality and what would smoke what. There is name, class, feel, prestige, please lets not be all G35 is the best. Every car has something that another one lacks, i can name good things about the G and bad things about it to, same goes for the M3, lets be intelligent people and understand things apropriatly, you guys are begging to sound like *****
Great post. With many cars, you can add F/I and coilovers, etc etc but the M3 from the factory has TOTAL BALANCE that makes it one of the worlds greatest cars, which is amazing for the price. The M3 is legendary and will continue so when the V-8 M3 comes in the E90.
And for the m3 driver to beat a G35, well, the M3 is SUPPOSED to beat it.
Wow 9 pages.....
And for the m3 driver to beat a G35, well, the M3 is SUPPOSED to beat it.
330ci = G35 Coupe
2006 M3 = 2007 GT-R
Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, this is what it boils down to.
Besides, the M3 is basically a bored out, cam-upgraded, gear modified, tighter suspensioned 330i. Does this account for 20K extra? Probably. Can the same technology be applied to the G Coupe for the same money? Most definitely.
Will a modified G with the same upgrades (longer duration cams, balanced crank, ported head, shorter gear ratios) SMOKE an M3? Absolutely.
Are our cars better than 330's? Of course.
So what's with the disrespect to the Japanese? Who the **** are "the germans" anymore? I've owned plenty of kaiser cars, and I'm finally happy to switch over to the Japanese brand. I just lease returned a 530i and a 323ic, I can say with great certanty that I will NEVER buy/lease a BMW again. The cars are poor quality and the service sucks. The service dept coffee is good though.
As for the M3, yes, yes, I love the way it drives. But I'm pretty sure I'll love the way a 2007 GT-R will drive even better.



