G35 vs 545 BanG Out!!
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tyker600rr,
No offend taken. I just don't want to see anyone getting hurt.
R129 is a Mercedes SL, like GeeWillikers said. Mine is a 600 V-12. I also track P-cars. If good fortune stays with me, I will be ordering the Cayman S that due on U.S. shores in '06.
No offend taken. I just don't want to see anyone getting hurt.
R129 is a Mercedes SL, like GeeWillikers said. Mine is a 600 V-12. I also track P-cars. If good fortune stays with me, I will be ordering the Cayman S that due on U.S. shores in '06.
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Originally Posted by tylers600rr
NOBODY SAID THEY CONDONE STREET RACING!!!!!
Geez on every forum board I've ever been on when someone gives a good story about a kill that wasnt at astronomical speeds u always got them stick WAY UP there a$$ people that say "little johnny street racing is very bad"...f up outta here!!!! All those people need to have a few beers and get layed!!!!
Geez on every forum board I've ever been on when someone gives a good story about a kill that wasnt at astronomical speeds u always got them stick WAY UP there a$$ people that say "little johnny street racing is very bad"...f up outta here!!!! All those people need to have a few beers and get layed!!!!
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if you cant get the stick outta your butt and chill..
I'm lucky I'm alive and I know it. I hope everyone who hasn't almost died doesn't have to learn the hard way - I got lucky and I hope anyone who igonres these pleas to not race are as lucky as I have been.
The guy who flipped his bike over as he broke hard from what must have been 110 while racing his biker buddy the other day in the suburbs and slammed into the back of an SUV while upside down and who may never walk again - probably never shat their pants and learned the lesson that I got to, the easy way. Don't compromise yourself and others learning lessons the hard way racer people.
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
1 - Cell phones behind the wheel aren't illegal, although I personally wish they were. Until they are outlawed and the law enforced, complaining about that distraction behind the wheel is about as productive as pi$sing into a fan.
2 - Old people behind the wheel have to pass more driving tests than I do. I'm not saying that all are fit to be behind the wheel, just that they are meeting the requirements established by OUR elected officials. I'm military and have renewed my license by mail for about the last 15 years. Fill in a form and mail it in. Scary, isn't it?
3 - Except for a few really dumb motherfOckers, I don't recall drunks lining up to post their drunk-driving escapades in a public forum to increase their stature or enhance their illusion of 'manhood.'
All the fanboys who respond to idiot street racer posts with "nice kill" or "you really showed him" or "props fo' representin' yo" or some such - can you imagine making the same congratulatory posts in a thread that started out:
I got really $hitfaced and decided to drive home last night. I knew it wasn't smart, but the guy on the other barstool kept bragging about how well HIS car rode while he was plastered. I know it was wrong, but I did it 'safely' and the roads were empty....
One thing I can say on the drunk's behalf - at least his judgement was chemically impaired when he made his dumb-a$s decision. Street racers (if you believe what you read here, which I don't) are never high or drunk when they race because they always do it 'safely.' To me, that means they make their irresponsible decision without being 'altered.'
You can compare street racing to any form of irresponsibility you like, but two things remain the same:
1 - The law is against you. Comparing street racing to other traffic annoyances may somehow justify the behavior for those that support it. Until those other annoyances fall outside the boundaries of the law, however, the comparison will fall short.
2 - Street racing is a concious choice. It doesn't 'just happen.' The results, whatever they may be, are no accident.
2 - Old people behind the wheel have to pass more driving tests than I do. I'm not saying that all are fit to be behind the wheel, just that they are meeting the requirements established by OUR elected officials. I'm military and have renewed my license by mail for about the last 15 years. Fill in a form and mail it in. Scary, isn't it?
3 - Except for a few really dumb motherfOckers, I don't recall drunks lining up to post their drunk-driving escapades in a public forum to increase their stature or enhance their illusion of 'manhood.'
All the fanboys who respond to idiot street racer posts with "nice kill" or "you really showed him" or "props fo' representin' yo" or some such - can you imagine making the same congratulatory posts in a thread that started out:
I got really $hitfaced and decided to drive home last night. I knew it wasn't smart, but the guy on the other barstool kept bragging about how well HIS car rode while he was plastered. I know it was wrong, but I did it 'safely' and the roads were empty....
One thing I can say on the drunk's behalf - at least his judgement was chemically impaired when he made his dumb-a$s decision. Street racers (if you believe what you read here, which I don't) are never high or drunk when they race because they always do it 'safely.' To me, that means they make their irresponsible decision without being 'altered.'
You can compare street racing to any form of irresponsibility you like, but two things remain the same:
1 - The law is against you. Comparing street racing to other traffic annoyances may somehow justify the behavior for those that support it. Until those other annoyances fall outside the boundaries of the law, however, the comparison will fall short.
2 - Street racing is a concious choice. It doesn't 'just happen.' The results, whatever they may be, are no accident.
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Yeah I have an 03 u can see pics of it at www.tskustomgraphics.com
I see you have an identical car to mine except I have the nav!! Man great minds think alike!! What color is your bike? Hey!! And also u came from a Honda, I had an RSX Type-S!!!
I see you have an identical car to mine except I have the nav!! Man great minds think alike!! What color is your bike? Hey!! And also u came from a Honda, I had an RSX Type-S!!!
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Sweet man. I have an 04. All black. I took off all the decals. I think it looks better that way on the black one's. Trying to get some Renthal sprockets to do a 520 conversion but they are on backorder!!! I just got a new Arata Exhause though. Got a sweet price on one.
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Mine was all black when I bought it, when they came all black with no stickers just silver bottom!! I have a carbon fiber jardine pipe and just put a 190 rear tire, +2 up back sprocket and -1 down front sprocket(#1 stunta) little odds and ends!!!
Street racing has existed since improved roads and four wheels and will exist as long as man produces a means and testosterone. Live with it or go pi$$ into a fan.
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
What's the difference? Please explain the difference between the two. I'm dying to hear this.
Street racing, drunk driving - the parallel is striking. Both are illegal, both are done for the convenience of the driver, both result in needless injury, expense, and frustration, both are avoidable, both carry a laundry list of reasons about why doing either is acceptable, both are completely irresponsible. I could continue, but I think you can understand my point.
The inclusion of the drunk driving reference in my post was made because of the claim made in this thread that we should focus on other distractions that kill more people or that street racing isn't as dangerous as other things.
You're right, I am one of 'those people.' I respect the law, respect my fellow citizens, and generally try to do the right thing, both behind the wheel and away from it. Guilty.
Street racing, drunk driving - the parallel is striking. Both are illegal, both are done for the convenience of the driver, both result in needless injury, expense, and frustration, both are avoidable, both carry a laundry list of reasons about why doing either is acceptable, both are completely irresponsible. I could continue, but I think you can understand my point.
The inclusion of the drunk driving reference in my post was made because of the claim made in this thread that we should focus on other distractions that kill more people or that street racing isn't as dangerous as other things.
You're right, I am one of 'those people.' I respect the law, respect my fellow citizens, and generally try to do the right thing, both behind the wheel and away from it. Guilty.
I remember an incident that occurred about five years ago when I was driving to Ocean City MD. I was driving down RT 50 at around 4:00 AM and from nowhere two cars, a Vette and an M3 went past me like I was standing still, and I was pushing 80 at the time. A few seconds later a State Police car went flying past me in pursuit of the racers. About five minutes later I saw three State Police cars parked on the side of the road along with the Vette and the M3. I could also see the drivers of the cars being taken away in handcuffs. In the newspaper next day it stated that the Police clocked these guys at speeds in excess of 160 MPH. The paper listed the charges against the drivers and it involved huge fines, loss of license, and even the possibility of jail time. The way the system seems to work is that if you get a good lawyer, they'll get you off, but at least both guys did some jail time before bond was posted.
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I used to drive down Rt. 50 in the summers late at night and I remember almost hitting deer that were standing on the shoulder. Not enough time to react at night just doing 70 mph.
If you need to get racing out of your system, take the G, or any other car to a track, get track time and driving skills (how many here know how to heel and toe, after blasting down a straight with your foot to the floor - that's a rush when you get it right).
You will be humbled by what an instructor can teach you, and it will do more for you than any cosmetic or performance bolt-ons
If you need to get racing out of your system, take the G, or any other car to a track, get track time and driving skills (how many here know how to heel and toe, after blasting down a straight with your foot to the floor - that's a rush when you get it right).
You will be humbled by what an instructor can teach you, and it will do more for you than any cosmetic or performance bolt-ons
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Originally Posted by SixFive
If we are lucky enough to live with all the dummazzes on cell phones why should we live with illegal racing. You can't ever justify illegal deadly activity. And your ignorance in presenting a subjective argument is transparent when you do nothing but rage to those making a sensical argument. Please don't reproduce.
And believing that the elimination of street racing will make your drive home uneventful isn't ignorant? I don't know about you, but I have 3-4 close encounters a week mainly due to idiotic drivers. My quote is probably the most real and accurate statement in this thread so far. It IS illegal to race and it has almost always been, yet people do it anyway. This means it's here to stay, so all you can do is punish those who are caught. That's how most criminal laws are created and enforced and the internet just made it more visable. I said I'm a realist. Since it's already illegal and people post about it anyway, we would get more positive results by PM'ing the moderators to either start a street racing forum or instantly delete all racing stories. I grow weary of the crusaders that continously post anti-streetracing posts just as much as those who post racing stories. If we can't make it go away on the streets, we can at least do it here. Don't call me ignorant for cutting through the BS. Let's be a little proactive and stop whining.
Sorry guys in 1900 posts it's finally got to me: the cockiness of the "so be it, street racing is here to stay, there are worse problems" attitude. It's just absurd.
After my wife was hit by a 17 YO with his 12 and 13 year old companions at a combined 110 mph - head on, after losing control speeding around an apex on the worst road in Philly. Then listening to my wife crying on the phone, "I'm so phucked up" ...and then watching a kid's spine split in half the other day on a motorcycle just like my zx-11, it's gotten to me and I'm somewhat entitled to say what I believe after experiencing and seeing what could have been avoided, create uneccessary swaths of destruction. I am more concered about cellphone veering, but that only happens at around the speed limit. I can tell you first hand what 110 mph does to ones body when impact is direct. It's nasty bud.
After my wife was hit by a 17 YO with his 12 and 13 year old companions at a combined 110 mph - head on, after losing control speeding around an apex on the worst road in Philly. Then listening to my wife crying on the phone, "I'm so phucked up" ...and then watching a kid's spine split in half the other day on a motorcycle just like my zx-11, it's gotten to me and I'm somewhat entitled to say what I believe after experiencing and seeing what could have been avoided, create uneccessary swaths of destruction. I am more concered about cellphone veering, but that only happens at around the speed limit. I can tell you first hand what 110 mph does to ones body when impact is direct. It's nasty bud.