2004 coupe and its tranny
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2004 coupe and its tranny
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1st time posting. I'm in the process selecting a vehicle and torn between the Z and the G. I scanned through the posts and seemed to me that you all favor the G over the Z. But most of you wanted the G just because it has 2 extra seats. I need help with these 2 questions. If the extra seat is not needed, would you still favor the G? And with so many of you reported the problem with the tranmission, is it going to be fixed with the new model, 2004? Thanks in advance
1st time posting. I'm in the process selecting a vehicle and torn between the Z and the G. I scanned through the posts and seemed to me that you all favor the G over the Z. But most of you wanted the G just because it has 2 extra seats. I need help with these 2 questions. If the extra seat is not needed, would you still favor the G? And with so many of you reported the problem with the tranmission, is it going to be fixed with the new model, 2004? Thanks in advance
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Definitely the G over the Z. The G has a lot more class to it...since it's a luxury-sport car.
Second...the tranny on the G and the Z are the same...if you get a bad one...it won't matter which car you have. I've also heard from a friend down here who works at Nissan that they're getting a LOT more tranny recalls compared to what I've heard about the Infiniti's.
Good luck w/ your decision.
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Second...the tranny on the G and the Z are the same...if you get a bad one...it won't matter which car you have. I've also heard from a friend down here who works at Nissan that they're getting a LOT more tranny recalls compared to what I've heard about the Infiniti's.
Good luck w/ your decision.
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I have a friend with a Z - he's had 2 new trannies. I'm having no problems with my 6MT. He's had his car about 6 mos. longer, so it could be that he got into it when the bad trannies were more common.
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Reasons (besides the back seat) I chose the G:
Styling is classier
Ride is better
More exclusivity (the Z is getting VERY common)
Handling
Dealer service
Warranty
Luxury features and amenities
Insanely comfortable seats
Usable storage space
Styling is classier
Ride is better
More exclusivity (the Z is getting VERY common)
Handling
Dealer service
Warranty
Luxury features and amenities
Insanely comfortable seats
Usable storage space
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If I didn't need the extra 2 seats, then I'd probably go with the Z. My reasons:
1. I like the look of the Z's front more.
2. Driver has a lower seating position.
3. More interesting instrument panel layout.
4. Slightly lighter car...difference is about equiv to 1 person.
I rode in one as a passenger and noticed that the exhaust note sounds a bit louder and more aggressive from the inside. Bad thing is that you can't get it with a sunroof.
But I knew I couldn't deal with the inconvenience of a two-seater, so the Z was never one of my considerations.
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1. I like the look of the Z's front more.
2. Driver has a lower seating position.
3. More interesting instrument panel layout.
4. Slightly lighter car...difference is about equiv to 1 person.
I rode in one as a passenger and noticed that the exhaust note sounds a bit louder and more aggressive from the inside. Bad thing is that you can't get it with a sunroof.
But I knew I couldn't deal with the inconvenience of a two-seater, so the Z was never one of my considerations.
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I could have lived with a two seats and loved the styling (especially the silverstone with burnt orange leather), but for me no sunroof was a deal breaker. Plus the g's seats are awsome.
Interestingly enough if you build a loaded z touring model online and a loaded g 6mt online you will see that the z has no price advantage. The comparasin was 37144 for the z to 37615 for the g with the g having a sunroof and brembros that the z doesn't!
Interestingly enough if you build a loaded z touring model online and a loaded g 6mt online you will see that the z has no price advantage. The comparasin was 37144 for the z to 37615 for the g with the g having a sunroof and brembros that the z doesn't!
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Hiya!
I would still go with the G even without the back seats, which surprised me because I'm a long-time lover of the Z. I used to own a 280zx. It was stolen for parts. Sigh.
ANYway, I used the "price with options" page on Edmunds and by the time I had chosen the type of Z I wanted, all the options, it cost as much or more as the G and still didn't offer as much. Plus my insurance would be a lot more.
Subjectively, I still like the looks of the G better than the Z. And I like the additional trunk space.
If I was really hot on getting a manual and getting back that low-slung feeling that only the Z gives, I'd get the Z. But for the type of driving I do - mostly commuting in traffic - the comfort/fun/practicality mix of the G suits me better now. But I'll always have a place in my heart for the Z. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
"Moderation in all things, including moderation."
I would still go with the G even without the back seats, which surprised me because I'm a long-time lover of the Z. I used to own a 280zx. It was stolen for parts. Sigh.
ANYway, I used the "price with options" page on Edmunds and by the time I had chosen the type of Z I wanted, all the options, it cost as much or more as the G and still didn't offer as much. Plus my insurance would be a lot more.
Subjectively, I still like the looks of the G better than the Z. And I like the additional trunk space.
If I was really hot on getting a manual and getting back that low-slung feeling that only the Z gives, I'd get the Z. But for the type of driving I do - mostly commuting in traffic - the comfort/fun/practicality mix of the G suits me better now. But I'll always have a place in my heart for the Z. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]
"Moderation in all things, including moderation."
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Thank you guys for all the inputs so far. What makes it even harder for me is that I currently own a Z 2+2. I have not get a chance to go and test drives these vehicles yet. Just by the look, exterior, I like the Z look. But the interior, the Z is no match for the G. That's me though...Right now it's like 60% G and 40% Z. But I'm afraid I might regret later on by not choosing the Z. I'd been a Z fan all my life until the G came....
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Well, the main reason to get the Z is if you love the exterior styling and the Z tradition. It doesn't have much else to offer over the G except the slightly lighter curb weight and maybe $1500 extra bucks in your pocket (although you'd think the G would have a higher resale too). And it's not that the Z isn't a great car, it's just that Nissan made the happy mistake of offering a car that does most things slightly better for nearly the same amount of money.
Think of it this way. If the G35 Coupe never existed, but the 350Z had an optional "G" package that came with a backseat, leather, moonroof, vastly improved interior quality, increased trunk space, Michelin Pilots, better warranty, VIP service, and a more exclusive body kit and badging for around $2000... would you turn that down?
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Think of it this way. If the G35 Coupe never existed, but the 350Z had an optional "G" package that came with a backseat, leather, moonroof, vastly improved interior quality, increased trunk space, Michelin Pilots, better warranty, VIP service, and a more exclusive body kit and badging for around $2000... would you turn that down?
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First, I don't know much about the tranny problems; but the Z and G have the same drivetrains. The drivetrains are built in the same assembly plant off the same assembly line. Whatever problems are common to one have to be common to both since they have the same parts. There should be more problems with the Z than the G simply because the Z came out earlier and there are several times more Z manuals than G manuals.
Here is why I bought a G35. First, I don't like the back end of the Z. I'm sorry for all the Z owners out there, but it is butt ugly. Next, it really bothered me that they would continue to make it a hatchback and have no hatchback utility. The rear shock tower brace and cover eliminates half of the cargo room. I am moving away from a Miata and if I'm going to a bigger car, I should get more room. The G35 Coupe(aka CPV35 Nissan Skyline Coupe in Japan) has a very nicely styled back end. It has a trunk about the same size as the space under the Z's hatch, but also a good sized rear seat. The interior and dash are a lot better intergrated and styled. When you look at the tri-pods for the instruments in the new Nissan products, they just look cheap compared to the Infinitis. With the Z, you have a choice of either getting the Bose stereo and leather seats or getting the big Brembo brakes. With the C35 coupe 6-sp, if you get the premium package then you get everything the Z Touring model has plus everything the Track model has and more for a price less than a loaded track model. The G gets a longer warranty from Infiniti: 4 yr bumper to bumper vs. 3 yr bumper to bumper from Nissan and 6 yr powertrain vs. 5 yr powertrain from Nissan. Last, you get Infiniti service. Free loaner cars whenever it goes in for service and service departments that are required to keep their quality up. I already have 1 nightmare from a poorly run Nissan dealer's service department. I don't want to feel I am taking a chance everytime my car goes to the dealer. If you look at it in terms of dollars, Infiniti will win everytime.
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Here is why I bought a G35. First, I don't like the back end of the Z. I'm sorry for all the Z owners out there, but it is butt ugly. Next, it really bothered me that they would continue to make it a hatchback and have no hatchback utility. The rear shock tower brace and cover eliminates half of the cargo room. I am moving away from a Miata and if I'm going to a bigger car, I should get more room. The G35 Coupe(aka CPV35 Nissan Skyline Coupe in Japan) has a very nicely styled back end. It has a trunk about the same size as the space under the Z's hatch, but also a good sized rear seat. The interior and dash are a lot better intergrated and styled. When you look at the tri-pods for the instruments in the new Nissan products, they just look cheap compared to the Infinitis. With the Z, you have a choice of either getting the Bose stereo and leather seats or getting the big Brembo brakes. With the C35 coupe 6-sp, if you get the premium package then you get everything the Z Touring model has plus everything the Track model has and more for a price less than a loaded track model. The G gets a longer warranty from Infiniti: 4 yr bumper to bumper vs. 3 yr bumper to bumper from Nissan and 6 yr powertrain vs. 5 yr powertrain from Nissan. Last, you get Infiniti service. Free loaner cars whenever it goes in for service and service departments that are required to keep their quality up. I already have 1 nightmare from a poorly run Nissan dealer's service department. I don't want to feel I am taking a chance everytime my car goes to the dealer. If you look at it in terms of dollars, Infiniti will win everytime.
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