$35k sedans comparo from C&D (from E60 board)
#31
Originally Posted by terryw
conditions such as temperature, humidity can really effect these stats. I believe C & D have no reason to lie about these numbers.
Is using the G's and the other car's worst 0 to 60 numbers during the test considered a lie?
#32
The IS350 is rated under the new SAE standards at 306 hp/277 lb.ft, under the old SAE standard, which most other manufacturers are still using, the IS350's hp/torque would have rated higher(they're also rated higher if you looks at the specs. in Japan).
Torque is more relevent to acceleration than hp, so at 277, it should be at least 17 more lb.ft. more than the 2005 G35 at 260 lb.ft.(rated under old SAE)
The IS350 also has a 6 speed auto tranny as well.
Torque is more relevent to acceleration than hp, so at 277, it should be at least 17 more lb.ft. more than the 2005 G35 at 260 lb.ft.(rated under old SAE)
The IS350 also has a 6 speed auto tranny as well.
Last edited by GSCoupe; 08-29-2005 at 12:11 PM.
#34
First of all, like other people have suggested, the Lexus may have been a ringer. Let's wait for some other magazines to do a review.
Second, the Lexus IS350 looks interesting and promising, but I won't have any real interest in it until it comes with a proper 6spd manual. Also, I hope it doesn't have the new GS's VDIM (which doesn't even completely disengage when you "turn it off").
Second, the Lexus IS350 looks interesting and promising, but I won't have any real interest in it until it comes with a proper 6spd manual. Also, I hope it doesn't have the new GS's VDIM (which doesn't even completely disengage when you "turn it off").
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In a very early article I read, a man tested the is350, and was told by the lexus engineer that it produces 314hp.. Lexus could have under rated the engine.. Or maybe its not 314hp because of the new SAE standard? Whatever the case, It looks like it has potential.. But I would still like to see more tests done on it...
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#42
Anyone else notice the price as tested? Hah.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/BAHILL99/03.jpg
TL $35,870
A4 $41,520
BMW $42,390
Caddy $36,515
G $34,760
IS350 ~$40,000
9-3 $34,445
S60R $47,600
So ok, the G was the second lowest as tested price to the 9-3, which got *last* place. The TL is only 1k more, which is good for Acura owners, same with the Caddy. Shame they scored 4th and 6th respectively. The real "surprises" are the S60R at over $12,500 *more* than the G (If I'm not mistaken, you can get an M35 for less than this with most options since base is $41k), the BMW at 8k more than the G (called that one) and the A4 at 7k more. Oh, and the mightly IS3500 at approx. $6k more (probably closer to 8 in the real world).
OK so listen. I am all for mag tests, reviews, winners, losers, arguments, whatever - but these cars aren't even in the same class anymore. I consider a 12-33% price difference (in this case $6 to $12k) to be a different class, sorry. Maybe that's just me, but at $35k as tested versus $43k as tested, the BMW 330i and (probably) the IS350 should be compared to an M35. Hell, the S60R should be compared to an M45.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/BAHILL99/03.jpg
TL $35,870
A4 $41,520
BMW $42,390
Caddy $36,515
G $34,760
IS350 ~$40,000
9-3 $34,445
S60R $47,600
So ok, the G was the second lowest as tested price to the 9-3, which got *last* place. The TL is only 1k more, which is good for Acura owners, same with the Caddy. Shame they scored 4th and 6th respectively. The real "surprises" are the S60R at over $12,500 *more* than the G (If I'm not mistaken, you can get an M35 for less than this with most options since base is $41k), the BMW at 8k more than the G (called that one) and the A4 at 7k more. Oh, and the mightly IS3500 at approx. $6k more (probably closer to 8 in the real world).
OK so listen. I am all for mag tests, reviews, winners, losers, arguments, whatever - but these cars aren't even in the same class anymore. I consider a 12-33% price difference (in this case $6 to $12k) to be a different class, sorry. Maybe that's just me, but at $35k as tested versus $43k as tested, the BMW 330i and (probably) the IS350 should be compared to an M35. Hell, the S60R should be compared to an M45.
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